Speak for yourself, a number of Saints supporters expressed an opinion on Bentley after a very short period of time last season saying very similar to what I have said about KPP, they were entitled to their opinion and I just find it really odd that people should be called out for it.

Supporters are entitled to an opinion, surely that’s what messaged boards are for??

It’s neither delusional or embarrassing.

James Bentley has played 39 games for Saints. I don't think KPP has played that many minutes for us.

Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion, all those disagreeing are saying is let's wait a bit before we come up with one.

There was a time when he had only played a game and some Saints supporters were talking him up in relation to his potential.

In fact some people were talking him up before he had played a game for them.

That didn’t make them delusional, just excited by what he might go on to become.

For the record they were spot on.

Possibly based on his 50 career appearances elsewhere.

How many does KPP have?

Obviously I hope you are all right and he becomes a superstar in a Wigan shirt, but as Grimmy said in his pretty impressive post, if he doesn't then he won't be the first player we have hailed as a star with very little substance that has turned out to be nothing of the sort.

He had played 28 first team games before he even got there, and I don't remember them calling him world class or an improved version of Hock at that point. Even now that would be premature.

Did you follow London academy regularly in 2019 or are you literally just basing this off a 20 minutes stint in the first team and some highlights of his best moments against other youngsters? If he does what he did in those highlights against grown men in Super League then fair enough, but that's a big jump. Kibula ran wild at that level, he will be plying his trade on loan at Newcastle this year. EggChasing lookatme!

No, for some supporters it was based on minimal game time for Saints, in fact even one of our more high profile supporters tweeted something similar.

That’s part of watching sport, sometimes you get it right and sometimes not but it would be pretty boring if everyone waited for x amount of games before giving any sort of opinion, especially a positive one.

Bentley is 4 years older that KPP

Those stats would be impressive for BFT compared to his over the last 2 years!!!

This whole topic just shows how little we have to talk about. It seems to be a spat between the glass half full brigade and the glass half empty. It is nice to think that there might be talented players moving through the ranks but I doubt that few of us are much more than hopeful that this youngster might eventually be the finished article. It is really sad to see the negativity though that this topic has created. There must be a few of you who go down a scream at parties. Perhaps we should ban all positive threads because they cause a spittle flecked response from the land of the trolls. I think the main point of the original post was that the poster hoped that KPP would kick on after a reasonably positive start. Sadly the straw men came out suggesting that KPP had been identified as the second coming. Perhaps we should all just decide that this year we are going to be relegated and just give up. It sounds like a convention of nihilists.

He's getting a nice write up again in The Post, looks like he might be first in line if Farrell/Bateman are missing

Read that and it does seem like they’re excited about him. He’ll need to get past Smithies, Isa and possibly Partington and also in front of Shorrocks but it’s a long season and I’m looking forward to seeing more of it. I’m hoping to see a lot more of Ben Kilner as well this season. If we’re talking about impressive one off performances against Saints, he probably showed up better than anyone and he’s of an age now where the breakthrough needs to come.

Decent interview with him on Wigan TV too. Excited to see him play