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Quote: Bigredwarrior "He was hospitalised for 3 days and couldn’t move. Dr said he was very lucky and the damaged nerves (not back spasm) were very close to the spinal chord and fortunately there was no damage to any vertebrae. Ben said it was far more painful than when he snapped his Achilles and was the worst injury he’s had. He’s up and about now and has just started to walk his pup.'"


I thought his back had recovered and it was his knee that was keeping him out?

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Flower played since his back injury didn't he?
Thought his knee opp was keeping him out now likes MD said.

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I remember watching him in an Academy Grand Final a few years ago and he scored a hat trick. You knew then he was a real handful with his strong quick runs and good footwork.

By all accounts he’s a good lad off the field too

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Thought Philbin has been underrated by the rest of SL for a while now but this thread shows that's changing.

Not sure he is GB quality yet but he keeps getting better.

Seems to have a complete disregard for his own well-being, and you love to see that in a prop.

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He looks like he's going to break the line every time he takes the ball up, I like him, hopefully Mitch Clark can do that impact job for us next season.

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Quote: MadDogg "I thought his back had recovered and it was his knee that was keeping him out?'"



That’s right. I was asked what his back injury was and added on about his knee. Not clear on my part, apologies.

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Quote: Pie_Eyter "No i didn't. Don't make bull up. I said Burke had good hands, So what?

Ben Flower made a comment to somebody in earshot of me about the coach Adrian Lam that was in very bad taste and completely un-professional trying to raise a laugh. So you and bigredwarrior can get down off your high horses.

What exactly does he do that is so good on the pitch? very, very average. There are about 30 Ben Flower's knocking about. Barely plays either. Not enough contribution. You rate him if you want. I don't. That is my opinion and nobody can tell me otherwise.'"

Thank goodness someone who thinks the same as me, well said ‘Pie- Eyter’ we haven’t missed him much this past 5 weeks

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Hopefully Philbin isn’t a flash in the pan because one season doesn’t make a player and I don’t remember his name being mentioned last season

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Flower is a great club prop, i cant understand why some people are attacking him. He is not a stand out flashy player and i wouldnt have him in the GB squad but he is steadily good. He does his job efficiently and to a high standard. No huge runs, no massive hits, just high quality with the ball and without it. With a 1 point lead in the last 10 minutes of a grand final, you would want Flower on the field. You know he would be unlikely to make a mistake or miss a tackle, thats what makes him a good player.

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Quote: The_Enforcer "Flower is a great club prop, i cant understand why some people are attacking him. He is not a stand out flashy player and i wouldnt have him in the GB squad but he is steadily good. He does his job efficiently and to a high standard. No huge runs, no massive hits, just high quality with the ball and without it. With a 1 point lead in the last 10 minutes of a grand final, you would want Flower on the field. You know he would be unlikely to make a mistake or miss a tackle, thats what makes him a good player.'"

Very good, well made point. With the impact we'll have at prop next season Flower will be invaluable in allowing others to go about their work in the most effective way possible. Underrated.

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Clubb is the ace in the Wigan pack Imo

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Happens all over in sport, fans see the flash, not always the hard work..... I watch no wendyball these days, and i'm certainly no Man U fan... But i can well imagine that when they were in their pomp a few years ago, the first name on Ferguson's team sheet would have been Denis Irwin.

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Don’t forget burgess next year!!

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Quote: rubber duckie "Clubb is the ace in the Wigan pack Imo'"


In all fairness Clubb has been great recently. I actually thought he was past it but he has really stepped up in the last month or two.

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Quote: Grimmy "Do people really think he's ahead of the Burgesses, Walmsley, Thompson, Graham, Hill, Sutton, Flower?'"


Hill, Sutton and Flower deffo

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