Last season, particularly at the start, we snatched victories from the jaw of defeat. This season, the desire to keep going until the 80th minute and snatch a win isn't there, and we have faded away quite often in the 2nd half of games.

If its down to the players thinking they can just turn up and win, then its down to the coach to remove that idea.
If its down to the coach telling the players that they can just turn up and win, then its down to the Chf Exec to remove that idea.
If it is fatigue, then its down to the training methods.
If its down to other sides being fitter, then its down to our training methods.
If its down to our players not being as good as the ones they replaced, then its down to the recruitment team for not acquiring better players.
If its down to other clubs having better players, then its down to the recruitment team for not signing better quality.

Someone needs to take a good look at all these areas and sort it out for next season. If that results in on and off-field cliques being broken up and/or shown the door, then so be it.

A perfect summing up

Probably still won't be enough.

Amazing last week was we need to win 7 games now its only 6.

I totally agree we are done for and its time for some to be realistic now. A month or more gone since we have had most back and performances are not as good as top 6. Reality is we are going to finish 7th and that is where we deserve to be.

Agreed. Add to a potentially poor showing in CC Final, I think as painful as it will be, it's hopefully what is needed for some changes to be made.

Salford and Wakey, possibly

Chelsea sacked the special one by Christmas. For the 2nd time.

Are you saying that Wane is even more special than the special one?

Personally, I think this game between us both is like a knock out game on Friday.

The winner stays in the hunt with a chance of top 4, the losers season is completely over in regards to making the 4.

We are potentially without Leroy Cudjoe who was seen on crutches this weekend at the food & drink festival which will mean we will be suspect out wide.

However, we will be fresh in the back row with Ollie Roberts, Dale Ferguson & Michael Lawrence all available who missed the Wakefield game.

Our defence has been good of late and have conceded just 30 points in the last 4 games so its makes for an interesting game.

Sorry pal, we both have two chances of making the playoffs, slim and none. And slim just left town.

Well said none whats so ever.

It is hard to see beyond a top four of Cas, Leeds, Saints and Hull - we are nowhere near their levels at this part of the season, we might win a one-off game but not a run of games against them.

I would write off the top four and make sure we have the fittest/best squad available for Wembley - it is the only chance of silverware.

We are 4 points off Saints, who still need to play us, Leeds and Hull in three of their remaining games. We are also 6 points off Hull, who have got to play us, Saints, leeds and Cas in four of their remaining games. If we win all 6 remaining games, then we will be in the semis IMO. This is last chance saloon though, Saints beating Cas was a major blow.

I think we will beat Huddersfield and Salford in the next two games, but I can't see us going away to Saints the week after Wembley and winning. After that we have three games to potentially try new things - S.Tomkins in the halves and using the props as props being my preference.

I personally think we will beat you Friday. Im never usually that confident playing Wigan but I am this week. We are a much better with Jordan Turner on the left centre and we have a few fresh players coming back this week in the 2nd row.

Games between us over the last couple of seasons are always close so i'm predicting another close game but feel we will come out on top.