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Quote: jools "the penalties and cards were indeed justified. Young Nathan Mason playing in only his second consecutive game will have learnt a lot from that.
The issue is questions will be asked, given what was said about Bateman going back on the field to speak to the ref, as to if Wigan were really that squeaky clean that they only gave away one penalty in the second half. - rightly or wrongly it will be questioned. Even Phil Clarke questioned it!
In the end Wigan deserved the win because hudds wernt composed enough.'"



Was Bateman's comments overheard? As captain surely he is (out of the 17 players in the team) the one who has most justification to speak to an official?

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Ground another win out, yes it's not pretty at the moment but lets face it, tomorrow night, Saints, Leeds, Widnes and Warrington would kill for a win like that.
Glass half full night tonight.

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Quote: MattyB "Was Bateman's comments overheard? As captain surely he is (out of the 17 players in the team) the one who has most justification to speak to an official?'"


Must have been as the subject of discussion was reported. Sky lot made a big deal of it- even clarkey!

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Quote: jools "Must have been as the subject of discussion was reported. Sky lot made a big deal of it- even clarkey!'"


Typical of that lot, an exciting Thursday night match which went down to the final minute and the SKY lot search for the negatives. Always the same, especially Stevo. Wouldn't happen in televised RU as they don't talk down their sport.

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Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "But at Huddersfield they all dress like red and blue chairs for some reason..'"

Good job the Wigan fans turned out tonight and there was no red and blue "chairs" visible eh



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Quote: meast "Good job the Wigan fans turned out tonight and there was no red and blue "chairs" visible eh

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We appreciate you've got to grab what straws you can.

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Double what huddersfield would get on a Thursday night even when we take 6/7/8 times they brought tonight.

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As captain Bateman has the right to talk to the ref, he 'questioned' the ruck speed which he is allowed to do. Bateman is very new to the role, so SW prompted him to talk to the ref-no more too it.

Sky clearly wanted a talking point, so they added focus to the Batman/Ref chat, and it worked, it became a talking point under the spotlight. Captains asking refs about ruck speed etc happens every game. Only last week I heard Rob Burrow talking to the ref saying "We just want to get our fair share" when he felt Leeds should have been awarded a pen v Hull. 'Get your fair share'? so pens are now equally awarded in a game? I thought pen were awarded when a team broke the rules. This could have been a talking point IF sky focus on it.
Similarly James Graham in the NRL having a go at the ref for 'coaching' the opposition.

All part of the game, it's up to the ref to remain focused and be professional. Poor show from Paul Anderson, I guess the ref has screwed Huddersfield on a number of occasions this season looking at their position. d040.gif

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "As captain Bateman has the right to talk to the ref, he 'questioned' the ruck speed which he is allowed to do. Bateman is very new to the role, so SW prompted him to talk to the ref-no more too it. '"


That's a very generous interpretation of what happened. If John Bateman is experienced enough to be captain then he's experienced enough to talk to the referee when he sees fit. Fact of it is that Wane wanted to get in the refs ear but is not allowed by the rules, so instead sent Bateman back to do it on his behest. Nothing against the rules, certainly against the spirit of them though and let's not pretend Bateman was anything more than a puppet.

Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Captains asking refs about ruck speed etc happens every game.'"

Normally during the course of play, normally not when a player has left the pitch at half time and come back on at the behest of his coach - I'm not sure I've ever seen that before.

Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Only last week I heard Rob Burrow talking to the ref saying "We just want to get our fair share" when he felt Leeds should have been awarded a pen v Hull. 'Get your fair share'? so pens are now equally awarded in a game? I thought pen were awarded when a team broke the rules. '"


Yes, that's exactly what he meant when he said fair share. He didn't mean equal treatment, he meant please give us penalties we don't deserve. He wasn't referring to the fact that he's just had his bell rung by a guy who was ten yards offside (so both serious foul play and a professional foul) and the yellow card it deserved hadn't been issued, he was asking Cobb to fabricate stuff. It wasn't a talking point because there was nothing to talk about - that was a perfectly standard player-ref exchange. Last nights was not. That is why they talked about it.

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Quote: Big Jim Slade "My irony meter, pot and kettle sensor and glass house early warning stone detector all just exploded. Any idea why?'"

I could take a guess. Is it because you're a bell end?

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Quote: jinkin jimmy "I could take a guess. Is it because you're a bell end?'"

Clever.

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Quote: jools "Must have been as the subject of discussion was reported. Sky lot made a big deal of it- even clarkey!'"



Is this seriously being offered as evidence of something untoward?

I mean, did you manage to keep a straight face when you typed that?

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Quote: Big Jim Slade "That's a very generous interpretation of what happened. If John Bateman is experienced enough to be captain then he's experienced enough to talk to the referee when he sees fit. Fact of it is that Wane wanted to get in the refs ear but is not allowed by the rules, so instead sent Bateman back to do it on his behest. Nothing against the rules, certainly against the spirit of them though and let's not pretend Bateman was anything more than a puppet.

Normally during the course of play, normally not when a player has left the pitch at half time and come back on at the behest of his coach - I'm not sure I've ever seen that before.

Yes, that's exactly what he meant when he said fair share. He didn't mean equal treatment, he meant please give us penalties we don't deserve. He wasn't referring to the fact that he's just had his bell rung by a guy who was ten yards offside (so both serious foul play and a professional foul) and the yellow card it deserved hadn't been issued, he was asking Cobb to fabricate stuff. It wasn't a talking point because there was nothing to talk about - that was a perfectly standard player-ref exchange. Last nights was not. That is why they talked about it.'"



So we're in agreement then? Good good.

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Quote: jools "the penalties and cards were indeed justified. Young Nathan Mason playing in only his second consecutive game will have learnt a lot from that.
The issue is questions will be asked, given what was said about Bateman going back on the field to speak to the ref, as to if Wigan were really that squeaky clean that they only gave away one penalty in the second half. - rightly or wrongly it will be questioned. Even Phil Clarke questioned it!
In the end Wigan deserved the win because hudds wernt composed enough.'"


Come on so Danny Brough does not bend the refs ear errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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