ABOVE US ONLY PIE... do you have SKY SPORTS etc?

if so you are not a fan of any sport, because you watch it on the tele instead and do not attend games. what a worthless argument you are trying to put across here. give it up. people are entitled to follow a team in any way they feel, are able to or even simply just want to. If it doesn't live up to your standards then go buy an executive box and watch from there instead.

As you are genuinely interested- no I don't think people should justify why they don't go to the game. But if they offer an opinion then it should be informed.

I would have thought that people would be ashamed at the crowd last night. It was a poor effort. I feel for the players playing in front of a stadium one third full. Perhaps if all the so-called fans abandoned their keyboards and went the game occasionally we might have better informed debate.

Nothing to do with my standards. Just take a look at a dictionary definition of "fanatic".

Of course I watch the football on sky sports. I'm not a fan though cos I don't go. Simple really.

There doesn't need to be a debate informed or otherwise, the discussion is about the poor editing on the sky footage, anybody who chose to watch the match on the TV and have an opinion on the quality of the footage should not have to justify themselves as a fan to you or anybody and for you to have an opinion on wether somebody can afford to go to a game or not is utterly disrespectful.

Of course it is poor that the crowds drop for cup and play off matches but when cost comes into it that's always going to be the case.

So you cannot be a fan of something unless you actually go to watch it live?? Is this for real??

5 days notice isnt the best to change hours is it sunshine?

Average attendances over last 5 play off games:
St Helens - 12,041 (HKR/Warr/Wig/Hud (last game at KR)/Warr)
Leeds - 11,482 (Sts/Wake/Hull/Wig/Catalan)
Wigan - 9,102 (Hudd/Leeds/Leeds/Catalan/Catalan)

None of them great for the biggest games of the season but Wigan's look disproportionately poor compared to the others.

I don't know honeybunch

Correct.

And yes.

So basically, if anyone on here hasn't been to every single Wigan game, including acadamy level, since the day they were born, can't claim to be a fan, and must never voice an opinion as to how they saw the performance of the last game they saw.
Cat 789924 fans only.
And don't call yourself a 'fan': instead use: supporter, officianado, devotee, or enthusiast.
And as for the person who thinks it's easy to get to a game from down here, you've clearly never driven the 167 miles up the M1 and M6 or A50 at that time of a working day. And getting back home after midnight isn't always condusive when you have children, and work in the morning.
But don't let other people choose to live their lives their own way. If they don't conform, you can always insult them and make yourself feel self-righteous!!

did you go to the WCC v Brisbane and the Roosters?

An apology

As I'm clearly in a minority of one. Time to face facts. I thought that anyone who considered themselves to be "fans" would actually go the game. I was wrong.

Still every cloud and all that. Turns out I am now a fan of
New Zealand Warriors, Catalan Dragons, liverpool FC, Boston Red Sox, Lancashire CCC and Rory McIlroy! Who knew?

Regards AUOP

PS see you at the game next Friday? (Maybe not)

That'll do until your next brain fart. You and Suzy Banyon, what a team.......

The Mods have decided to be the judge of who can and can't be regarded as a fan.

Once we have come up with a completely arbitary and random set of measures that abuse our power, we'll get back to you.