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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "I dont see how that has anything to do with Sean Long being offered a deal do you?'"


Yes as you are calling IL a liar for some reason?

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Quote: thepriestman85 " Either give Noble time and jeopardise any possible recruitment or tell Noble mid season he’s not going to get a new contract and recruit another guy for the next season and let them pick the players he wants.

He can’t win as he’s dammed if he does and he’s dammed if he doesn’t.

I agree it would actually be an issue if it happened next season when a coach is in place but the current situation IL is in is a tough one either way.'"


Thanks for proving the point many of us put forward a few weeks ago.

If Noble was not staying he should of been told and it should of been announced weeks/months ago. I remember this argument and as always Cruncher and his band of happy clappers said IL would of looked like a prat etc. etc.

The new coach should have been sorted out ages ago so he had the chance to have a say in any new players or any current players off contract. If the new coach would not commit to Wigan until the last minute then that does not mean IL should automatically just go out and sign any old players and hope the new coach is happy with them eg. Sean Long

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Quote: thepriestman85 "Yes as you are calling IL a liar for some reason?'"


Can you show me where i called IL a liar please. Feel free to quote me otherwise button it.

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Quote: Cruncher "That's exactly what I heard.

No chairman worth his salt would let a player like Long announce that he was available without at least enquiring.

But you've got to admit, it's a killer. Even in the event that Mike McGuire may sign in two days's time as Wigan's head coach, the anti-IL Brigade are more interested in what they consider to be the latest chink of weakness that they've found in the chairman's armour.

AILB

Why do people have to be in one camp or the other? Can you not like someone but criticise some of the things they do? I liked Noble but didn't always agree with everything he did.

I'm not overly excited about signing Maguire but can understand why some people are. Personally I'll take the approach that I do when we sign NRL players and wait and see for myself. We were told Riddell and Roberts would be superstars by the NRL experts on here but although they've been decent(ish) they've hardly set the world alight.

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Quote: Woody_woody " Can you not like someone but criticise some of the things they do? '"


Not if its IL.

Any criticism of IL will result in Cruncher spitting his dummy into next week!

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Can you show me where i called IL a liar please. Feel free to quote me otherwise button it.'"


Easy…..

Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "I can say that i like strawberrys and you would believe it but it doesnt mean a great deal.'"


You’re saying IL says one thing to and does another hence him being liar.

So what is it you wanted IL to do? Sack Noble mid season? Are you saying you would have been happy for this to happen? Or was it a case of saying the only part of the season that matters is the final part and Noble should have been given time as we were going to win the GF?

Well IL left it till the last moment like you asked for and now your slating him for it.

Get a grip man Noble has gone so stop trying to twist and undermine everything IL says or does.

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Quote: thepriestman85 "Easy…..



You’re saying IL says one thing to and does another hence him being liar.

So what is it you wanted IL to do? Sack Noble mid season? Are you saying you would have been happy for this to happen? Or was it a case of saying the only part of the season that matters is the final part and Noble should have been given time as we were going to win the GF?

Well IL left it till the last moment like you asked for and now your slating him for it.

Get a grip man Noble has gone so stop trying to twist and undermine everything IL says or does.'"


Please show me where i call IL a liar.

Like i say,show me the proof or button it.

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Thanks for proving the point many of us put forward a few weeks ago.

If Noble was not staying he should of been told and it should of been announced weeks/months ago. I remember this argument and as always Cruncher and his band of happy clappers said IL would of looked like a prat etc. etc.'"


Now the dust has settled and Noble's future made public I am more convinced then ever this has been handled the wrong way. Ever since the Kearney rumour it has been one huge distraction who was going to be coach for Wigan in 2010.

The way it should have been done was either

Sack Noble and appoint Wane caretaker about half way through the season

Or

Make it public Noble was not going to get a new deal but he had the full support of the board and the club was right behind him for the remainder of his contract.

The idea you can keep silent and let a coaches contract run it's course when you are not going to give him a new deal has IMO been blown out of the water by this saga.

It doesn't look professional and it is just simply unfair. And before anyone says Noble was off looking for jobs anyway that is irrelevant IMO. He was in the last year of his deal so was quite entitled to do so given the lack of response from Wigan.

Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "The new coach should have been sorted out ages ago so he had the chance to have a say in any new players or any current players off contract. If the new coach would not commit to Wigan until the last minute then that does not mean IL should automatically just go out and sign any old players and hope the new coach is happy with them eg. Sean Long'"


I agree the issue should have been sorted a while back but I don't know how realistic it is to expect the new coach who will still be working for his current club to be concerning himself with recruitment for his new employer.

When Nobby arrived people often made the excuse when things were not going right that "it was not his team". Well of course it wasn't and its inevitable a new coach inherits a team. He is being employed to make that team better. That is why Noble got the job in the first place over Millward.

So the new coach this time around will be in the same position as any other new coach at a club. He will be presented with a squad of players already on contract and told to go away and coach them.

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Quote: DaveO "snip'"


I too don't think it was handled in the best possible way. But I'm in no way convinced that Noble only found out last week. I, like a few on here, was told this a couple of months ago.

One of the reasons that it perhaps wasn't public knowledge was due to the fact that we weren't 100% sure that the guy coming could get a visa. If it was announced that Noble was leaving and no one was ready to take the step up, it would have made us look unprofessional. If we then said we're after Maguire but we're waiting for a visa, visa denied and Wane gets the job. Everyone knows that Wane isn't IL's first choice and he won't have everyone's backing.

It's a tricky situation to manage and one that I'm ultimately not too bothered about as long as the outcome is we get a coach who's ready to take us to some finals.

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Please show me where i call IL a liar.

Like i say,show me the proof or button it.'"


I just did you clown.

You say IL says one thing to everyone and does another behind the scenes!!

Are you being this slow on purpose?

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Quote: Pemps "I too don't think it was handled in the best possible way. But I'm in no way convinced that Noble only found out last week. I, like a few on here, was told this a couple of months ago.

One of the reasons that it perhaps wasn't public knowledge was due to the fact that we weren't 100% sure that the guy coming could get a visa. If it was announced that Noble was leaving and no one was ready to take the step up, it would have made us look unprofessional. If we then said we're after Maguire but we're waiting for a visa, visa denied and Wane gets the job. Everyone knows that Wane isn't IL's first choice and he won't have everyone's backing.

It's a tricky situation to manage and one that I'm ultimately not too bothered about as long as the outcome is we get a coach who's ready to take us to some finals.'"


If that is the case and I have no reason to disbelieve you, then they are both liars. BN said he was only told last week and IL said he only made his final decision 3 or 4 weeks ago.

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Quote: Woody_woody "If that is the case and I have no reason to disbelieve you, then they are both liars. BN said he was only told last week and IL said he only made his final decision 3 or 4 weeks ago.'"


The whole air of mystery surrounding this is strange. Like I said, I was told this a while ago and a few on here said the same. You'd think that Nobby and IL would at least get their stories straight. icon_lol.gif

It could also be that the final decision was only made a couple of weeks back and I was just told one of the many rumours taht turn out to be unfounded. Remember the one a couple of months ago that said Nobby had been sacked? Loads of people were on to that one.

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Quote: Pemps "The whole air of mystery surrounding this is strange. Like I said, I was told this a while ago and a few on here said the same. You'd think that Nobby and IL would at least get their stories straight.
Maybe they both had a slip of the tongue and were meant to say month/months icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Pemps "You'd think that Nobby and IL would at least get their stories straight. 9.52392578125:10
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