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Really hoping we get to see Kilner at some point in the next few weeks. He’s got time yet but we need to have a look at him at some point and see what he’s got. It’s not an area of real strength for us in quality terms, so it would seem to make sense to have a look at all your options. If he isn’t going to play then we need to have a look at him via a loan spell instead. I noticed Brad O’Neill has gone to Widnes on loan today, so a couple if similar deals may be made.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: NickyKiss "Really hoping we get to see Kilner at some point in the next few weeks. He’s got time yet but we need to have a look at him at some point and see what he’s got. It’s not an area of real strength for us in quality terms, so it would seem to make sense to have a look at all your options. If he isn’t going to play then we need to have a look at him via a loan spell instead. I noticed Brad O’Neill has gone to Widnes on loan today, so a couple if similar deals may be made.'"

I'm not sure he does have much time to be honest. He looked good in that Saints game but 1 SL appearance at 21 years old isn't a good place to be with no u21s or reserve rugby. Can you think of anyone who left it that late and still made it? I can think of Peacock at Bradford and that's about it. That was probably an era with reserve rugby though. I can't think of anyone at Wigan, they all got released if they hadn't broken through by that age. I'm not saying that's how it should be, but I don't think he will be here next year if he doesn't break through this season.

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Quote: Grimmy "I'm not sure he does have much time to be honest. He looked good in that Saints game but 1 SL appearance at 21 years old isn't a good place to be with no u21s or reserve rugby. Can you think of anyone who left it that late and still made it? I can think of Peacock at Bradford and that's about it. That was probably an era with reserve rugby though. I can't think of anyone at Wigan, they all got released if they hadn't broken through by that age. I'm not saying that's how it should be, but I don't think he will be here next year if he doesn't break through this season.'"


It’s not an endless period of time but we are only three games in. If we’ve not seen him come 10-15 games then you would start to wonder if he will get a chance but I’m keeping my fingers crossed he does. I know what you’re saying about his age and at some point this season he’ll need to make that jump you’d imagine. He’s 21 years old at the minute so that would usually be an age where you’re getting chances. It was a real shame the loan spell at Toronto got panned with Covid as it’s playing first team rugby somewhere that could really knock the door down. All I can say is I presume Lammy sees something in the likes of Havard, Byrne and Partington that he isn’t seeing in Kilner and that’s fair enough.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: NickyKiss "It’s not an endless period of time but we are only three games in. If we’ve not seen him come 10-15 games then you would start to wonder if he will get a chance but I’m keeping my fingers crossed he does. I know what you’re saying about his age and at some point this season he’ll need to make that jump you’d imagine. He’s 21 years old at the minute so that would usually be an age where you’re getting chances. It was a real shame the loan spell at Toronto got panned with Covid as it’s playing first team rugby somewhere that could really knock the door down. All I can say is I presume Lammy sees something in the likes of Havard, Byrne and Partington that he isn’t seeing in Kilner and that’s fair enough.'"

Yeah, in years previous we never seemed to have more than one prop coming through so he'd have had a crack

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If French does come in then it has to be on the wing. If he’s not fully up to speed then fullback is too crucial of a position to risk him at.

Regardless of that, Hardaker has been playing out of his skin there so far this season and I’d say arguably up there with his 2017 form at Cas, so deserves to be there

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Doesn’t take much to twist Lams arm when it comes to Big Tony Clubb. Rewarded with a start for his reasonable showing at York.

Still no French, which against a young Leeds side is fair enough. Get him right for playing against stronger teams(and by that I mean ones with less injuries) in the coming weeks.

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Major lack of go forward already

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Good enough half.

Wish Ethan Havard would drive those legs a bit.

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Doing what we need to do without getting out of third gear again.

Some nice shapes in attack where a true centre would take more advantage.

Bullock much better off the bench. Smithies looking good on that left channel.

Hanley best game so far by a mile. No mistakes but also providing good go forward.

Another professional job so far despite maybe not the most thrilling.

Expect us to pull away in the last 20.

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Yup. All on track, as far as I can see.

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A decent first half. Virtually non stop and played at an incredible pace. I’m impressed with Isa and Hardaker so far. The bloke with the Polish name that I can’t spell and can’t be bothered to google has been outstanding l, Leeming is a cracking hooker.

I thought we were really unlucky with the call on the Hardaker no try, a brilliant defensive effort but first contact was with the ball for me and should have been play on.

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We’re a big metre eating starting prop and a few returning backs away from having one hell of a team. I’ve been longing to see Smithies in the second row and he’s smashing it. His time in the middle will come. It’s boring but Clubb had an appalling 15 minutes. Dodging work and looking like he had two fridges on his back when Briscoe waltzed across the front of him and broke away.

Might be on my own but I’m absolutely puzzled how that last video ref decision doesn’t go as far as the grounding. It was clear as day to me that Luke Briscoe attacked the ball and knocked it out. Hopefully it doesn’t cost us.

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Quote: NickyKiss "We’re a big metre eating starting prop and a few returning backs away from having one hell of a team. I’ve been longing to see Smithies in the second row and he’s smashing it. His time in the middle will come. It’s boring but Clubb had an appalling 15 minutes. Dodging work and looking like he had two fridges on his back when Briscoe waltzed across the front of him and broke away.

Might be on my own but I’m absolutely puzzled how that last video ref decision doesn’t go as far as the grounding. It was clear as day to me that Luke Briscoe attacked the ball and knocked it out. Hopefully it doesn’t cost us.'"


I'm not sure how Tommy's hit on Austin against Wire in the cup can be given as a wire ball, but that is a knock on against Wigan. He clearly hits the ball.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "I'm not sure how Tommy's hit on Austin against Wire in the cup can be given as a wire ball, but that is a knock on against Wigan. He clearly hits the ball.'"


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Can they not just take him off Wigan games?! He’s bound to be worse tonight with his lad playing for Leeds but in general it’s just pathetic. I don’t know if he has a real dislike for the club or if he’s just trying too hard not to be seen as pro Wigan but it’s gone past boring.

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I don't have an issue with that standone decision - its just as inconsistent as ever.

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