Thanks. If we own the freehold and the land etc. Then fair enough I’ve no issues with having an asset on the books but I’ve only found that we’ll take over the lease which will save the council about £215k a year. If we don’t own it, to what purpose can IL sell us on if we don’t have anything to actually sell on as an arm of the council seem to be taking over the running of Central Park?

I was under the impression it was rented. So that would mean we would have:

DW - Rent
Robin Park Arena - Rent
Town Centre Shop - Rent

Whereas last year we had:

Orrell - owned
Hilton Street properties - owned
Central Park School - Rent, moved.

As far as I can see.... no assets, other than the playing squad (contractors).

Happy to be proven wrong about Robin Park (hope I am).

your right pal, was saying to my dad last night as the game how much saints have got it right, great stadium, great service were pinging notes into the till left right and centre all going into their pockets, their academy play there also. We are missing a trick so so much with the renting of a stadium and is costing the club a fortune in lost revenue.

Don't we still have Orrell? I didn't think it had been sold yet. Either way, it's great to have assets but what use is the land to the club if it's no longer fit for the purpose it was designed for? If the club wants to invest in other areas surely it's better to sell it rather than keep hold for the sake of having an asset.

Renting the DW saves us money in terms of maintenance. The big issue is not making money from hospitality and events. If the club can make up for that loss (which presumably is what they are hoping for with Robin Park) then it's removing that negative.

I'm not sure how our deal for Robin Park is going to work but if it means the club is going to take over the running of Robin Park and therefore make money from events held there then that should hopefully give us another source of income and make up for what we lose by renting the ground.

It always makes me laugh when you get the “you don’t need to own a stadium” brigade banging out nonsense,if nothing else a stadium is a huge asset,one that as you say contributes to the coffers of a club,as you say you could have the ladies playing,the kids all there playing under the one roof.

As it stands all Wigan own is gym equipment and a few tackle bags

I think the rent is a small amount as we don't see a penny from the food or alcohol stalls

Chance's are they are on HP.

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Quote hengirl="hengirl"It always makes me laugh when you get the “you don’t need to own a stadium” brigade banging out nonsense,if nothing else a stadium is a huge asset,one that as you say contributes to the coffers of a club,as you say you could have the ladies playing,the kids all there playing under the one roof. As it stands all Wigan own is gym equipment and a few tackle bags'" Since Saints moved into their new stadium they have lost £7,996 million. In the same period Wigan lost £1,613 million. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

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What do you mean 'assets to rescue them'?

They can sell their ground, clear their debts and ground share with Widnes ?

So despite the salary cap, RL is still in a position where the teams that can afford to lose the most can win the most?

Wolves lost 260k in 2016 and 70k in 2017

Leeds make money but that's at the expense of spending on the team - and that is showing with their league positions once the golden generation retired.

Hull FC ground share in a council stadium.
Cas make money but havent won anything
Giants debts are £10M more than their assets

Hull KR? Salford? London? Wakefield? no financial cures there

all very worrying.