Aussies get Benefit of the doubt and we get Ref's call. - Says it all really.

It must be so frustrating for the players. It is beyond a joke now....it is blatant cheating im afraid. I hope Mcnamara has something to say about it.

Despite the mistakes I don't think we have been outclassed. The Aussies were there for the taking. 15 against 13 hasn't helped much either

..............Billy Slater is human

Well i'm actually not too downhearted with that tbh.

We know we have problems and especially in the backs but to put up with reffing and video reffing like that and not get a total stuffing isn't the worst result i've seen.

How was Lunt not given benefit of the doubt? and the forward pass try for the Aussies was yet another joke.

You would have to speak to the Aussie ref and VR to get that one answered I'm afraid. The same could be said of a few more decisions as well. Those decisions have made Aus. team look far better than they are.

I notice how you didnt comment on the absolutely embarassing defensive position of O Loughlin for the aussies first try. Ive seen 3 year olds with better defensive positioning. He was just stood there daydreaming, 3 meters out of line.

The decisions have actually left a very sour taste with me. Australia were there for the taking and the VR let them off the hook. Yes we made far to many unforced errors but when the dynamics of the game are changed so dramatically ( the VR decision) then performances can be affected. If we had kept Oz on the ropes and pinched another converted try to make it 6 - 14, chests get puffed out, confidence rises, the ball begins to stick and its game on. As it was the VR cheated and made a cop out decision which instantly deflated a ver inexperienced young side. I for one are quite proud of there efforts if im honest.

Go to page 2..............reference was made there to Lockers' defence

have to disagree Phil Clarke who says the players need to spend more time with the England coaches in order to develop. Sorry clarkey but I'd rather have the Wigan youngsters kept away from McNamarra and spending more time with MM.

I don't think I'll be getting up at 4.30am next week.

I think he is kind of refering to the way England RU do things. Wont happen though. I think that we could incorporate the help of some of SL's best coaches in the 'camps'.

The problem is imports or should I say poor imports taking key positions in Club sides. Look at the Aussies ... They have the attitude of "You play in the NRL or you kiss your international career goodbye" Removing promotion & relegation has cured sod all ! Teams are still going into administration and lets face it not many players from Championship clubs are moving through and being signed by SL clubs - When they do they are loaned back to there Championship club anyway Where's the sense in that ?

I don't get why we need to have a fulltime coach at all especially if the only one willing to do it is second rate(at best).

I'd be much happier if we had a part time coach that was top class rather then a fulltime one that is pathetic. I'd give the job on a part time basis to a coach like Nathan Brown or Maguire if they were willing to take it. They're forward thinking coaches that get the best from their players and aren't afraid to rattle a few cages.

They were given 3 tries which should have been chalked off without any question.

The ref constantly gave all the 50/50 calls their way, some in crutial positions e.g. Goulding ball steel.

We made a break with a short pass to Cudjoe given as forward and yet when they do it every set its not given.

We were disallowed a try which should have been given 'benefit of doubt' (it would have been given for them).

DISGRACE.

Extremely Crap - Cudjoe, Atkins, O'Loughlin

Cr*p - Briscoe, Goulding

Average - S.Tomkins, J.Tomkins, Westwood, Harrison, Lunt, Burgess, Ellis, Fielden

Acceptable performance - Graham, Roby, Crabtree, Robinson

In the last 5 minutes we knew the game was lost and we were out of the Four Nations so why didnt we go about and knock a few heads off? Ref was rubbish but we were never going to win.