Cudjoe

Yep. I predicted this before the tournament.

agreed

I think he's gonna get his head taken off a few times

we'll get murdered.

sam at 1....good idea
wings....goulding..tick
briscoe...mmmmm
cujoe at centre...theyll trample all over him....

back 5 for mine...we need a BIG threequarter line....
1. sam
2. dazza
3. westwood
4. joel
5. atkins
halves....christ knows

8 stu
9 robinson
10 graham
11 burgess
12 ellis
13 lockers

bench
harrison
crabtree
lunt
a n other

which i suppose leaves roby and brown for 6 and 7

That's one thing they won't do. One of the best defensive players in superleague. Only missed 12 tackles all season.

England have a chance in this game but less so with a loose forward at stand off. Should have kept faith with Brown.

Side looked much better last week with tomkins at full back.

Cudjoe will be fine at centre. Atkins in the team is more of a worry.

I can only recall 3 away victory's V Aus ( Gregory and Gregory 1989, Phil Clarke Dummy and the whole Wigan pack playing and the Willie meets stuart Fielden game).

Hence what's new.

Quit the whinging and get behind the team. At least most of them have years ahead of them.

Thats probably the best 17 he could pick from the squad he chose tbh.

Players like Darrell Griffin and Tony Clubb - WTF are they doing in there seriously? Danny Brough had made himself available for England apparently so with all the halfback problems we are having we should have brought him in. Desperate times call for desperate measures and he has a cracking kicking game which could improve us as a team massively if our forwards manage to do the job.

And Tony Clubb instead of Martin Gleeson? Seriously? Gleeson and Goulding have been immense this year in SL they work well together at Wigan. Its obvious to anyone with a brain that Gleeson played a massive part in Gouldings success this year so why the f*ck has Mcnamara picked a crap centre from the bottom placed club instead of taking Gouldings partner who between them scored 3 trys in the píssing Grand Final, its ridiculous. I seriously believe someone had a word with McNamara on that one to make it look like RL is expanding down south by bringing a Cockney into the England squad.

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Darrell Goulding
3. Martin Gleeson
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Tom Briscoe
6. Kevin Brown
7. Danny Brough
8. Stuart Fielden
9. Luke Robinson
10. James Graham
11. Sam Burgess
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. James Roby
15. Ben Westwood
16. Joel Tomkins
17. Eorl Crabtre

Much stronger IMO obvious problems at 6 and 7 but thats genuinly down to injuries to McGuire and Eastmond.

For me now 9 is looking worrying for the future, Robinson, Lunt, Moore, Diskin just arent international standard. Roby is the best thing we have but he is more effective off the bench obviously. There is no-one else.

When I heard this team it was the first time I was happy I haven't gone

Gleeson is past his best and picking him would be a step backwards.

Lunt is possibly the best hooker prospect I have seen in years. Unfortunately due to Nathan Browns incessant desire to play scrum halves at hooker he has not had a good run this season. Agree moore is not a good hooker. Robinson is a scrum half.

Can't comment on Tony Clubb as i've never noticed him (and I've seen quins play live three times this season !)

You may think so but he's still a bloody good player and better than any of the centres in the current England Squad even 'past his best'. Its worth picking him only for his partnership with Goulding if nothing else. Goulding next to Cudjoe or Shenton or Atkins is nowhere near as dangerous as Goulding next to Gleeson.

You can't be serious??? The aussies will run riot if we don't have a centre that can actually defend... and there is no better centre out there for making tackles than Martin Gleeson.

This season Cudjoe missed 50% less tackles than Gleeson and made 800 odd more metres.

Your proposed centre pairing of Westwood and Tomkins is ludicrous. It's bad enough having Lockers at 6.

Take off your rose tinted specs.Martin Gleeson was the best centre of his generation but it's time to move on.

I think your the one who needs to take the rose tinted specs off.

Cudjoe missed 12 tackles and Gleeson missed 17 how is that 50% ........ Its also worth taking note Cudjoe made 3 more appearances than Gleeson aswell. Stats are irrellevant anyway seeing as they played different positions all season

Yeah and if you look at the statistics gleeson made 37 more tackles despite playing less game time... if you actually read what i said 'statistics are irrelevant seeing as they both play different positions'

Gleeson has played centre all year so is therefore going to make more takles than Cudjoe who (i think) has played on the wing most of the season and because he is making more he is going to miss more aswell and Cudjoe playing on the wing is going to make more metres than Gleeson who is providing the ball to his winger to get them into open spaces. Can you not understand that or are you just a complete idiot?

How many try assists did said centres make?