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Being honest it's been boring as hell and I don't think I've come away from a game yet thinking "I enjoyed that". Maybe injuries have played a part in that but other teams have managed to win, and play entertainingly with injuries.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Being honest it's been boring as hell and I don't think I've come away from a game yet thinking "I enjoyed that". Maybe injuries have played a part in that but other teams have managed to win, and play entertainingly with injuries.'"



The closest I've had to that was Good Friday. It was on the back of a skinful too like!

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "We are about half way now and just wondered what everyone's thoughts were so far?

Plenty of subjects to mull over but i will start with the obvious one. The name that can not be named. With the recruitment staff in Oz and the probable new prop what are we doing with this person. I can understand the club not saying anything but they must realise that the general public are not stupid. We need an announcement.

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Will be a Wigan player for a long time to come

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "We are about half way now and just wondered what everyone's thoughts were so far?

Plenty of subjects to mull over but i will start with the obvious one. The name that can not be named. With the recruitment staff in Oz and the probable new prop what are we doing with this person. I can understand the club not saying anything but they must realise that the general public are not stupid. We need an announcement.

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At a time of apathy in the game and on the rlforums in general a good post to start a discussion.
Personally a season I just want end.
Awful rugby with an awful management team. I'm dumbfounded at the atracious signings of the past 4 or 5 years and the inept or non existent communications to the fans which has reached new lows this year.
Boring play with guys who are robots with no known self processed thoughts. When fans think Isa is ok or even good per another post then for me it's time to move on. When people talk about D and middles I just shudder and start thinking about which bin is due out this week - is it the black bin or the blue bin?
I seriously cannot be d if we win lose or just throw out illness as an excuse for a near record defeat but still don't advise why we didn't ask for the game to be postponed. I can't help it - if someone can't be d about me then I just return the complement.
I'm not apologising for being so negative just sad that after over 50 years of support I just don't really care anymore about a sport that I used to be proud of for its honesty and it's intrinsic ability to thrill. Nowadays we have 17 guys for each team with no real discernible differences in size or expectations of skills of whom generally 20 just cannot play 80 minutes a week even though this their chosen "profession" and they allegedly have skilled professional back room staff working them to a peak of fitness.
I'm glad that young guys like you still obviously have a passion for the club but for me this is my last season as a season ticket holder and I have already decided that even if we should make any finals (which I don't think we will) I'm not going to make the effort to watch a game of chess on grass.
Obviously at the other extreme of your thoughts but hey ho it's a funny old world.

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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.' [color=red:2md8k3b3] Shaun Wane's post-Grand Final speech. 5th October 2013.[/color:2md8k3b3][/b:2md8k3b3][/size:2md8k3b3]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16304.jpg



Quote: bazdev "Will be a Wigan player for a long time to come'"

In Moley's Monday Scoops, it says we are close to signing F-PN, but on Scrappy-Doo he has this to sayRAIDERS EYE FIERY ENGLISHMAN

Canberra may get a player swap for Nu’uausala, with the Raiders one of several NRL clubs keen on England Test forward John Bateman.

The fiery Bateman has been dropped for the last two games amid claims he was fighting with a team-mate after a drunken trip to the races, which Wigan are still investigation.

Bateman has a clause in his contract allowing him to be released to move to the NRL.'"

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Quote: ksm1701 "In Moley's Monday Scoops, it says we are close to signing F-PN, but on Scrappy-Doo he has this to sayhttps://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/moles-monday-scoops-10-12/rl'"


Torn about this.

Would sooner he went to the NRL than RU (not that I think RU would even be an option in Bateman's case - England won the other night, so there'll be no panic-buying for a time). But I'd sooner he stayed in SL even if that meant he went to a rival club. I can't stand the thought of Scrabby-Doo (excellent name, by the way) turning out for Leeds or Warrington, but SL can't keep on shedding these quality players. The British game is star-light as it is, and though the likes of Sam have come home again, it's all quite disruptive.

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Quote: ksm1701 "In Moley's Monday Scoops, it says we are close to signing F-PN, but on Scrappy-Doo he has this to sayhttps://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/moles-monday-scoops-10-12/rl'"


The clause only allows him to move in the 2019 season.

Quote: ksm1701 "The new Contract allows John the option to play in the NRL from the 2019 season with corresponding transfer fee and return provisions to Wigan if he so chooses.
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Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "The clause only allows him to move in the 2019 season.

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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.' [color=red:2md8k3b3] Shaun Wane's post-Grand Final speech. 5th October 2013.[/color:2md8k3b3][/b:2md8k3b3][/size:2md8k3b3]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16304.jpg



Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "The clause only allows him to move in the 2019 season.'"

Can't think of a time over the last few years when The Mole's rumours have been inaccurate.

Putting the clause in the contract to one side, if the forthcoming disciplinary doesn't go Bateman's way, then presumably the club can decide to terminate the contract and release him to an NRL club for a fee or in exchange for Nu’uausala.

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To be honest i am not that bothered now it has all sunk in. If the said player has done what is alleged then i want him out of the club ASAP and i wouldn't care if he went to another SL club, NRL, RU or bare knuckle gypsy fighting. I don't want players like that at my club. I wanted Flower out when he did what he did but the club didn't act. Just get rid. Talent or no talent.

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I certainly wouldn't want him exchanged for F-PN, though, whom Sticky Stuart is trying to rid of anyway.

Swap one of SL's brightest talents for a clapped-out has-been? No ta!

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Agree. Think any deal for Bateman would have to involve cash as we would want at least the initial fee we've paid for him plus something for the amount of training and development he's received at Wigan. I'd say at least £200k. Although if Lineham is worth £125k it should be more like £3m.

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "To be honest i am not that bothered now it has all sunk in. If the said player has done what is alleged then i want him out of the club ASAP and i wouldn't care if he went to another SL club, NRL, RU or bare knuckle gypsy fighting. I don't want players like that at my club. I wanted Flower out when he did what he did but the club didn't act. Just get rid. Talent or no talent.'"


Could't disagree more. Firstly we have only unsubstantiated rumours as to what may of happened. Secondly we have no idea of the events which led up to said incident which could offer a reason (not an excuse) as to what may have happened. Thirdly we have no idea if there is an underlying cause which may affect someones behavior. Finally and most importantly people make mistakes and providing they show a willingness to learn from mistakes and change then i believe they should be offered support not cast away.

Nothing to do with anything that may or may not have happened, just an example. Part of my job is to conduct investigations, establishing the root cause is the single most important part of it. People have many issues that affect their behavior, as long as the staff member shows willing we will support them through those issues we can work together to sort it out.

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www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-7962683

It looks like the club are going to be letting us fans know what the hell's been going on. That said, I expect a very watered down, brief statement that will only add fuel to the "What Really Happened" question.
www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-7962683

It looks like the club are going to be letting us fans know what the hell's been going on. That said, I expect a very watered down, brief statement that will only add fuel to the "What Really Happened" question.


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Has he been suspended during this time or has he been training?

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