Matty Bowen had zero protection from lazy defenders

For their second try, Gildart was complaining to someone, spinning like a top, or he would have had a much better chance to stop the try... Inexperience, play to the whistle.

Edit, My mistake it was Gelling...

We may have lost a big game like you say.But I do think over the 80 mins we was the better side on the 74 minute makinson came up with a match winning tackle and I honestly believe that is what won them the game.

Over 80 minutes quite clearly Saints were the better side.

Not sure about that, you had more possession but our dodgy defence kept you at bay for most of the game. If it wasn't for that awful forward pass decision before the end, we defend like 3 or 4 less repeat sets and the win doesn't come as such a surprise. Thought it said a lot when you kicked on the 3rd despite being 10m out from our line. You ran out of ideas. I said after half time if we cut out the errors, we'd win as we look the better side, and I still feel that way.

Pretty sure that was Gelling complaining that he had been held back.

It WAS a forward pass, so the decision was spot on.
Matty Bowen failed to jump, game over.

You are right, i was wrong.... It was Gelling.

I think our tactics of running at Roby 2/3 times every set were spot on - he was absolutely screwed and did nothing with the ball.

Unfortunately we didn't have anything that resembled a last tackle play so couldn't turn out ridiculously weighted possession and field position into more points. And Bowen lost us another game.

As disappointed i was with a few things, Bowen not jumping (again) the inconsistency of the ref (for both sides) some very sloppy tackle attempts and Gelling doing what the hell he wants, in the grand scheme of things the result means nothing.

I still think we will beat Cas next week, Huddersfield will beat Leeds and we will finish top and getting the Saints re-match down here where it REALLY matters.

What a fantastic effort from the boys. Our forwards were immense and we were unlucky to lose that game.
However when you have so much pressure you have to get points on the back of it.
Saints goal line defence won that for them.
We have to find a way to get over the line from close range.

We were the better side last night and think we may have learned a valuable lesson especially attacking on their line. There were a few very disappointing sets starting on their line where we threw nothing at them. A bit more composure and we seal that game.

Everyone is talking about Bowen mistake and rightly so, but IIRC, was it Bateman with the stupid penalty on their line lifting up Swift trying to get a drop out? That was where the game turned, Saints were struggling to get out of their half then.

I'm with you. I thought we were the better team and, at last, all 4 props really turned up. That game wasn't the one that mattered whereas if we meet again it's winner takes all. Let them enjoy their victory (though McManus' gurning visage churns my stomach somewhat) because I'm pretty confident that we have the level of performance in us to overturn the losses to both Leeds and Saints.
As a separate issue I have to say that the Sky commentary team fell even further in my estimation, especially that turd Carney. "This is it! This is it!" when Wilkin broke clear was quite telling from him. I understand Phil Clarke leaning towards Wigan even if he shouldn't but I wonder what the club ever did to Carney to turn him into the bitter person he is now when it comes to Wigan?

If you can't beat Saints playing so poorly and with most of the quality possession what makes you think it'll be any different at your place?

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, you've had yours and I think you're wrong. Like most games each side had it's good and bad patches, but Wigan shaded it. Unlike Leeds! Like they always say you've got to play for the full 80. End of.