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Awesome display. Look at the score and you'll think they didn't turn up.

Several key performances, but I thought Lockers was immense.

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Absolutely outstanding performance. Sean O'Loughlin, Blake Green and Paddy stood out among 17 fantastic performances. e have no right to expect that level of performance from such a young team but I'm so glad that we're getting them! k020.gif

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Quote: FIOS "Well that was unexpected! Our pack is playing great at the moment, and with Hansen, Lauaki, Mossop and Prescott still to come in to the frame
I'd agree with that. Nilling Les Cats totally unexpected. Green's kick for Paddy's second was pin point and a try the moment he kicked it. As to Paddy's interception and then kicking the goal form the touchline, well what can you say except a014.gif

As to the pack, fantastic. I don't know about the injured players coming into the frame (well bar Hansen), Flower, Dudson and Taylor are there on merit IMO. I can see why Wane might want to rest Cosby but when Mossop is fit Prescott and especially Lauaki ought to have a tough time getting a game.

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Highlights for me:

Pat's interception (Run Forrest Run).
Green's kick to corner for Pat's 2nd try - sublime!
Greg Burke's celebration for his try near the end.
Lockers performance despite his leg looking like Nick Fozzards forearm.

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Great intercept by Richards, looked like he was flagging at the end there though! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: The pieman "WTF is the board so quiet tonight

very good performance and no bugger on'"


All in the Pear Tree last I looked!

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Quote: TaxingChimp "Great intercept by Richards, looked like he was flagging at the end there though!

I just never thought he would make it!
I'm in the east stand and I was urging him on, thinking he was going to get caught.

Sooooper try!!

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Quote: Geoff "All in the Pear Tree last I looked!'"


It's after games like that I am so gutted I have to drive back to Chester and can't go to the pub instead!

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Green was fantastic as was Lockers and Micky Mac and Richards had his best game for a while on a big night for him but the most pleasing performance came from two young forwards IMO. I thought Crosby and Burke were exceptional against a big and experienced Catalan pack. They look the real deal at the moment and thats great to see.

Great night.

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Quote: DaveO "It's after games like that I am so gutted I have to drive back to Chester and can't go to the pub instead!'"


Given what's gone on in the last couple of weeks that's the 1 pub I'd rather drive back to Chester than go in!
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Quote: proper-shaped-balls "I just never thought he would make it!
I'm in the east stand and I was urging him on, thinking he was going to get caught.

Sooooper try!!'"


Leon was gaining on him untill the 30 yard line, Paddy started to pull away after that. What made it even better was his TL kick after his try.

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Quote: DaveO "I'd agree with that. Nilling Les Cats totally unexpected. Green's kick for Paddy's second was pin point and a try the moment he kicked it. As to Paddy's interception and then kicking the goal form the touchline, well what can you say except
its great that we have players coming back to give the lads a break, but i cant understand how you have such a downer on Eric when he hasnt even played yet (especially given how poor preccy was when he did turn out, and how decent a 2012 eric had).
we may have a good young pack, but the game we lost (hudds) was down to us not being able to compete with the size of their pack over a full 80 mins (in particular crabtree). a second row of faz and tuson may be good at backing up, but it lacks grunt and power. having H and Eric back is going to be key to bolstering that part of our game (esp as we are also missing the physical impact of Gaz - even if we are not missing his indiscipline).
the kids are doing well now, but as has oft been said, we need everyone fresh for sept. we also dont know how the inexperienced players will do under the high intensity of play-offs, so old heads will be important to have around. it will also give us experience and size if we want to rest lockers and use Lloyd/Faz/Tuson to cover loose.

I have to say, well done SW for being able to spot the potential and integrate them into team.
Next step is to do the same for the backs (get Murphy his mojo back, and get some game time for the likes of manfedi, williams and hampshire).

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Quote: ShortArse "its great that we have players coming back to give the lads a break, but i cant understand how you have such a downer on Eric when he hasnt even played yet (especially given how poor preccy was when he did turn out, and how decent a 2012 eric had).'"


Because based on his performances for Wigan since he has been here he is IMO downright average at best.

Quote: ShortArse "we may have a good young pack, but the game we lost (hudds) was down to us not being able to compete with the size of their pack over a full 80 mins (in particular crabtree). a second row of faz and tuson may be good at backing up, but it lacks grunt and power. having H and Eric back is going to be key to bolstering that part of our game (esp as we are also missing the physical impact of Gaz - even if we are not missing his indiscipline).
the kids are doing well now, but as has oft been said, we need everyone fresh for sept. we also dont know how the inexperienced players will do under the high intensity of play-offs, so old heads will be important to have around. it will also give us experience and size if we want to rest lockers and use Lloyd/Faz/Tuson to cover loose.
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There is nothing wrong with your logic about wanting to rest players, needing some size etc but for me Lauaki simply isn't the answer. When he gets tackled it's all arms flailing about and very showy but for such a big man he has very little impact when he runs it in. I reckon Dudson for example is already a much better player. If you reckon we need to add some size to the front row then we need to bring in a Pongia type player not rely on Lauaki.

As to the back row there is no doubt we will be better off with Hansen back so I hope I didn't give the impression I was saying otherwise. We will also be better off again when Goulding returns. So IMO the players to come back who will improve the side are Mossop, Hansen and Goulding. I have always liked Prescott as a player but am just concerned he will come back and be out again injured.

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its always interesting to see how people view a players performance in a season (and there is no correct answer). i havent analysed these in much detail, but from 2012, here is the raw data for the forwards.
eric had a pretty decent year. good tackling, decent yards/carry and very few errors. I know that stats dont tell the whole story, but i think you are doing eric a dis-favour (eg just compare his stats with HH)

TK - MI - % - C - M - Av - E - P - RC - YC
Ben Flower 317 - 17 - 95% - 129 - 879 - 6.8 - 5 - 4 - 0 - 0
Chris Tuson 346 - 15 - 96% - 117 - 746 - 6.4 - 5 - 4 - 1 - 0
Eric Lauaki 330 - 14 - 96% - 229 - 1619 - 7.1 - 6 - 12 - 0 - 0
Gareth Hock 427 - 36 - 92% - 331 - 2238 - 6.8 - 32 - 24 - 1 - 0
Gil Dudson 141 - 2 - 99% - 66 - 494 - 7.5 - 0 - 3 - 0 - 1
H Hansen 584 - 24 - 96% - 260 - 1658 - 6.4 - 10 - 9 - 0 - 0
Jeff Lima 501 - 14 - 97% - 378 - 2910 - 7.7 - 15 - 10 - 0 - 0
Lee Mossop 433 - 13 - 97% - 248 - 1958 - 7.9 - 5 - 14 - 0 - 0
Liam Farrell 516 - 9 - 98% - 271 - 1908 - 7.0 - 5 12 - 0 - 0
Mike McIlorum 746 - 48 - 94% - 483 - 2210 - 4.6 - 13 - 28 - 2 - 0
Paul Prescott 139 - 3 - 98% - 92 - 708 - 7.7 - 6 - 2 - 0 - 0
Lockers 581 - 32 - 94% - 364 - 1894 - 5.2 - 17 - 18 - 0 - 0

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Watching the highlights on Wigan TV, Bentham says "Forward" after Lockers passes to Tuson for his try, then says "OK" when he scores icon_lol.gif

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