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| My Dad places Sully just ahead of Botica.
Botica is the best I have seen.
Thing is, he wasn't known as a kicker before he came to Wigan. He had to do it to get in the team.
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| Edwards said a young andy farrell was always beating botica at goal kicking at training
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FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
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| Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Jim Sullivan?'"
got to be
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| Quote: blond viking "would you say he was your best goal kicker of all time...'"
Without question.
And so precise you could tune a piano to his kicks.
A bonafide legend amongst a team of legends.
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| Still remember when we signed him. First I saw of him was a bloke kicking goal after goal on St James' primary school field on Worsley Mesnes. His kids used to run after the balls and bring them back to him. One of my heroes and a club legend.
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| Easy Jim Sullivan.
Top League Goal Scorer 16 (yes 16!) times out of 18 full seasons playing at Wigan.
Top league points scorer 12 times.
When you consider he didn't score that many tries to still be top point scorer 12 times highlights how good his kicking was.
Can't really argue with that although in modern times of any side Botica was on his own level. I suppose if he'd have played 18 years at Wigan he'd have done the same probably. Who knows.
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| Botica for me.
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| Have to admit I never saw Sullivan kick goals and clearly he must have been good but Frano was a class apart for me, never really forgave Maurice for letting him and Sam Panapa go even though it was the ruthless way Wigan acted at the time - just releasing players before they went past their best - my how times have changed!
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| Quote: Bilko "Easy Jim Sullivan.
Top League Goal Scorer 16 (yes 16!) times out of 18 full seasons playing at Wigan.
Top league points scorer 12 times.
When you consider he didn't score that many tries to still be top point scorer 12 times highlights how good his kicking was.
Can't really argue with that although in modern times of any side Botica was on his own level. I suppose if he'd have played 18 years at Wigan he'd have done the same probably. Who knows.'"
Consider the ball they used too, probably 3 times the weight once it was wet through.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: ChrisA "Consider the ball they used too, probably 3 times the weight once it was wet through.'"
And the difference in surfaces of the pitch and the kicking tee and the boots we have now.
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| Botica was a bit of a machine...
I remember at a similar time at Wire that we had Jonathan Davies, who was pretty decent, but Botica was on another level.
Can't speak for any other past Wigan players coming close to him, but at Wire we had Steve Hesford in the 70's & 80's, who, similar to Frano, was selected mainly for his kicking.
Be interesting to see if anybody is anoraky enough to have any stats???...
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| Yeah - I remember that famous New Year's day game at Wilderspool where Warrington and Wigan were heading for a draw.
A certain Paul Cullen (if memory serves me right) gave away a dubious penalty then another 10 yards for dissent towards referee Russell Smith. Botica then kicked the goal to win the game. That costly point saw us finish 3rd that season on goal difference.
Of course, many Warrington fans still won't forgive Mr Smith for that!!!
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33718_1325770967.jpg Games as big as Grand Finals define individuals and clubs. Remember, we only rent these journeys. In my time I had Pat Richard's shirt. Ellery Hanley had Sean O'Loughlin's jersey. Sam Tomkins is wearing Radders' number one jersey. Andy Coley is wearing Shaun Wayne's jersey. You have to make a mark in these shirts before you hand it down to someone else. Hand it back. So be aware for 80 minutes that you are not only playing, but you are also writing history and creating legacy. How many people actually write history - not many? A big stage demands big players…..INSPIRE YOUR TEAM MATES.
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| Colin Tyrer was good when i started watching. Used to kick the goals 'toe bung' style with square toed boots from a mound made with the heel.
Botica was class !
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| What do people think of Botica as an all round player?
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| Good rather than great.
And that's not a criticism, Botica was one of those who rarely had a bad game (at least once he found his RL feet) but was never up with the really top players like Edwards, Bell etc.
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