I know you watch, or used to watch, a lot of the youth games so was just wondering if this was something that was being mentioned. Glad to hear it's not and I'm sure, as Grimmy says, that something will be in place.

Wigan come watch my u14s in Yorkshire...I highly doubt they will not go down the road to watch their own players.

yep. as a minimum i would expect 'tapes' of the games to be sent back and would expect a member of the coaching staff to be attending matches where we have a number of loanees on the field

Kibula will get plenty of game time next year, think the plan is for him to see rest of season out at Swinton then start in reserves next season, Kibula Bryne and Havard are all big lads and can play fair minutes so our pack will be ok next year

Gone. I thought that he was progressing nicely as well.

Have to agree haven’t seen much of him this season I’ll admit but I fear all he’s done has swapped one big team for another and will spend most of his time out on loan somewhere.

Hope I’m wrong as well would love to see him mature into a cracking player

Sammy was in the same age group as my lad so ive seen him play loads of times and the general feeling was that despite his physical size he was a bit soft, i remember him playing against saints under 16s a few years ago and saints forwards murdered him , after a few hits he didnt want to know

If he had Olie Partingtons aggression he would be a world class forward. He's probably one of the most skilful forwards I've seen but lacks that "mongrel"

Haven't seen enough of him to comment, but the writing must have been on the wall for him with so many youngsters getting chances in the forwards this year and Kibula not getting a sniff. Only going to get harder from here.

Hope he goes well at Wire; the game doesn't have enough talent to be able to afford to waste potential where it exists.

Huge frame and bulk but just doesn’t have the heart that Partington, Smithies and Byrne possess. Sad really as with that he’d be a world class forward. Good luck to him at Warrington.

I'm not quite sure that the appropriate term is soft i would rather say that he lacked application more than anything i remember a few years ago the under 19s played against saints and he got sent off for fighting nobody that goes on a rugby pitch is soft as far as I'm concerned

Perhaps "soft" is a bit harsh ,lets say lacked aggression, more Earl Crabtree than James Graham

Especially when that someone is playing prop forward in what is a very aggressive and physical Championship.

He can't run.