Nothing to do with Lam. Most of the changes were forced. If we cant rest Flower against London when we have 4 first team props available then something is seriously wrong with the other 3 props.

I went - we were absolute rubbish. Not a single player can hold their head up after that. Sure, the weather conditions and the surface gave the Broncos a bit of a lift, but it was the reigning champions taking on a side that somehow scraped promotion from 5th place in the super 8s. Even with the surface, conditions etc we should have had enough in the tank to win the game.

The last two games have been very worrying, losing to sides who we really should have been beating by 20+. Mind you, didn't we have a poor run the last time we played a WCC? It seems that we take that game more seriously than we do the games that give you the opportunity to play for a WCC.

We don't seem to win games on a Sunday we seem to lose more than we win and this has gone on for years perhaps Bilko can give us some facts on this.

Maybe like me ? I like to go down the pub with my mates on Saturday.

That was a long day and a long way to go to be served up that garbage.

We were clueless in attack and feeble in defence.

Well done to London who just did the basics, nothing more, and that killed us.

We seem to have lost any semblance of team spirit. Nobody talking behind the posts, nobody leading us on the field (certainly not GW or Sammut who SHOULD be leading the team).

I know it's early, but it's been 5 games and I am starting to agree with the ethos that "If you buy Championship players, you play Championship rugby".

4 games, no points (I'm not hopeful of getting the "missing" 2 points back, but they shouldn't be *this* important).

That game felt like a step back to September 2017 against Wakefield, and I don't see how/where we improve.

I just hope that Lam has some kind of plan for how we move forward from this.

Nope. You’ll see I’m far from a rose tinted glasses wearer from my posts. I don’t buy into the crisis frenzy some will have you believe we’re experiencing. March means the square root of jack all, as long as we’re there or there abouts (6th upwards) at the back end of July I’ll be happy enough.

Said this about Sammutt from the day we wasted the money in signing him. A poor, and proven to be poor, SL player.

TL needed to have been replaced at the end of last season. He simply isn’t good enough anymore in any capacity.

Edited for accuracy

Looking at the highlights, Lam had every right to be annoyed with Escare for that dropped ball because he tried a one arm catch. Two arms and he's in.

The only problem with this is that every single player made errors during the game. Before this one, Escare also knocked on when playing the ball and London scored from that error which was just as critical to the defeat.

Lam was right, Escare messed up but he needs to be a bit careful to single him out for criticism. I remember Shaun Wane singling out Charnley for public criticism and his confidence was rocked for months afterwards. Escare was probably guilty of trying too hard if anything and with Manfredi fit again and Burgess just a couple of weeks away, he’s really going to struggle to stay in the 17.

I understand - just making the point that it was a lazy/arrogant attempt to catch the ball. When you're going through a bad spell its the last thing you need. At least be disciplined and get the basics right.

Yep. Back to basics is exactly what we need. Respect possession and play with discipline and we’ll be fine.

Escare over ran the ball from what i saw and then fell over. what a shambles.