You know, I have tried to use that in a debate before and was shot down but I fully agree. Example being :

I bet man for man there were more Leeds fans leaving Wembley with 5/10 mins to go than Wigan last night? % wise compared to all away fans possibly the same. It's fair to say that 6 to 7,000 walked out well before the hooter in the Leeds end at wembley.
Just like we saw a similar number of Saints fans leave at Old Trafford in October.

Watch Leigh (for instance) getting smacked and seeing 300-400 leaving doesn't quite have the same effect does it?

Re: Man U, I also agree most have long journeys to get home.

Yep, the argument is completely valid, anyone who thinks it isn't would be bonkers. Numbers dont lie, last night there were 20,000 there and 5000 at least left before the final whistle, compare that to 25% of 11,000 leaving wire, it just doesnt look the same does it.

i like the fact you said most, i dont have far to travel, but still further than most. Dad was born in manchester though so its okay.

No, you never.

Quote Galloping Ghost="Galloping Ghost"No, you never.'" errr.....Yes I did. 14th March 2009 United 1 Liverpool 4 news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 922069.stm Quote Galloping GhostAs a stunned Old Trafford came to terms with that, Aurelio poured salt in the wounds with a superb 25-yard free-kick that left Van der Sar rooted to the spot. =#800000The stadium was deserting rapidly as Liverpool inflicted one final piece of punishment on United, substitute Dossena lifting a stylish finish over Van der Sar. As Liverpool's players celebrated a landmark victory, there was only misery at The Theatre of Dreams - for once an inappropriate label for the home of the champions.'"

Quote Galloping Ghost="Galloping Ghost"No, you never.'" errr.....Yes I did. 14th March 2009 United 1 Liverpool 4 news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 922069.stm Quote Galloping GhostAs a stunned Old Trafford came to terms with that, Aurelio poured salt in the wounds with a superb 25-yard free-kick that left Van der Sar rooted to the spot. =#800000The stadium was deserting rapidly as Liverpool inflicted one final piece of punishment on United, substitute Dossena lifting a stylish finish over Van der Sar. As Liverpool's players celebrated a landmark victory, there was only misery at The Theatre of Dreams - for once an inappropriate label for the home of the champions.'"

Quote MattyB="MattyB"errr.....Yes I did. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 922069.stm '" i think he was referring to the 40,000 leaving.

Quote MattyB="MattyB"errr.....Yes I did. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 922069.stm '" i think he was referring to the 40,000 leaving.

In reply to 'those were the days' - what stupid posts, you're saying you sdon't want fans to turn up and support Wigan even if they leave early? No fan is better than the other, whether you go to all games or 1 game, or even none, all fans are surely the same and have the same rights to be labelled a 'fan'. Seriously hope you dont want to see our crowds drop to below 10,000 if people leave early, what a ridiculous ting to post. Suppose you're a 'proper fan' then or a happy clapper.

Doesn't matter what time you go from a match the club gets support and interest (and money) by simply turning up at 8pm. No fan is more loyal than another. I no longer have a season ticket and choose my matches due to personal reasons... used to go all home and away but it doesnt make me less of a fan does it.

Personally i stayed until the hooter and got out 10 minutes afterward, parked on the free carpark and was past Pier 15 minutes later - the traffic seriously isnt that bad as some make out though, unless you're in the payment carparks (to which i have no experience)

I said 30-40,000



Literally half the United crowd had gone. Unbelievable.

Quote MattyB="MattyB"errr.....Yes I did. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 922069.stm '" Dossena scored late on. Which is when I and many others went, The ground was still pretty full until then, alot of people left early. It wasn't 30-40k and it wasn't with 30 minutes to go, like you said initially. So I'll say it again "No you never".

Quote MattyB="MattyB"errr.....Yes I did. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 922069.stm '" Dossena scored late on. Which is when I and many others went, The ground was still pretty full until then, alot of people left early. It wasn't 30-40k and it wasn't with 30 minutes to go, like you said initially. So I'll say it again "No you never".

It was only yesterday you was saying why do wigan and wire fans have to argue but yet one day later your here doing the same thing gtfo

Telling somebody they're lying, isn't arguing.

Mass exodus when Aurelio scored, you know it. United were shocking that day



BTW - You said you left before the final whistle, even though there was ten minutes of 'fergie' time left?

There wasn't. I admit that thousands left when Dossena scored. Hardly any after Aurelio scored. We're the best team in this country at coming back, nobody in their right mind would leave then. 4-1 was enough for me.

Before

After

Both shots the ground is pretty full. I know it wasn't minutes later, I was down Chester road quicker than Keiron Cunningham in a buffet queue.