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Quote: MattyB "If ST gave the Aussie supporters section a cheeky V sign on Saturday after scoring the winning try rather than doing it in the Challenge Cup Final most if not all would be classing him a hero, elevating him into legendary status alongside with the likes of Paul 'F**k Off Norway' Gasgoine.'"


Elevating or lowering him to that standard? Tomkins is better than that.

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Quote: McClennan "Tomkins is better than that.'"



Gee...What a turnaround from August Bank Holiday.

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Quote: MattyB "Gee...What a turnaround from August Bank Holiday.'"


Turnaround from what?

Just to help you out I've found my solitary post on the 'V' sign issue from the 30+ page thread on the VT.

Quote: MattyB "Given the abuse he suffered at the international I can't blame him for doing it. He won't do it again and it will certainly heighten the fever when he next goes to Leeds. Can't wait for that lol.'"


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Quote: Offside Monkey "RLFANS in one eyed supporter shocker!?
Oh definately. I just find it irritating when they turn around and go "seeee, look at the player he COULD have been for the last 18 months"

.....er.....he was.

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Quote: McClennan "Turnaround from what?

Just to help you out I've found my solitary post on the 'V' sign issue from the 30+ page thread on the VT.

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Fair do. I meant in general (i.e. It was a 30+ page thread in the first place).

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Quote: MattyB "Fair do. I meant in general (i.e. It was a 30+ page thread in the first place).'"


Reactionaries the lot of them. It'd be pretty rich of a Saints fan to attempt any sort of moral high ground on player behaviour given our own problems with such, including ex-coaches i.e. Basil.

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Sam twisted and trapped a tacklers arm in one of the internationals, not a peep, during the the season it was "Cheating barsteward".

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Quote: Offside Monkey "BUT Wigan fans shouldn't get their high horse about it - he really annoys me when he plays for Wigan, but I accept and even like it a little when he's doing it for England. That's only natural in supporting sport.

Let's face it though, the antics of certain Kiwi players have put anything Tomkins does into perspective.'"


I'm not on a high horse, just pointing out the double-standard.

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Quote: McClennan "Reactionaries the lot of them. It'd be pretty rich of a Saints fan to attempt any sort of moral high ground on player behaviour given our own problems with such, including ex-coaches i.e. Basil.'"


Just wait until next week. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Cruncher "Every time a star player re-signs for a club, you hear this same crap - other players are not happy about it. And how often the story comes from fans of other clubs.

All first-teamers are pretty well-paid at Wigan these days. So if these underachieving malcontents can find someone who'll do them a better deal, then, as others have said, fair enough. Let 'em go and kick-start their careers elsewhere. I hear there are lots of opportunities in the bottom half of the table.'"

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Load of owd $hite I reckon. NRL bound in 2014 for our Sam, no doubt about it.

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Quote: MattyB "Load of owd $hite I reckon. NRL bound in 2014 for our Sam, no doubt about it.'"

I think same they just wont let it drop.

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Quote: Cruncher "Every time a star player re-signs for a club, you hear this same crap - other players are not happy about it. And how often the story comes from fans of other clubs.

All first-teamers are pretty well-paid at Wigan these days. So if these underachieving malcontents can find someone who'll do them a better deal, then, as others have said, fair enough. Let 'em go and kick-start their careers elsewhere. I hear there are lots of opportunities in the bottom half of the table.'"


I remember the days when Hanley, Edwards and Gregory would go and demand a wage rise as soon as they found out one of the others got one. They supposedly usually got the pay rise as well. The thing is though they were all top class players and you didn't see Ged Byrne following them in asking for the same because he knew he would never get it! I suspect few if any of our players think they are in a position to make similar demands as truly great players and I also suspect they are quite happy to get paid what they are worth when they have proven they are actually worth something.

Sam getting a big day ought to tell them that if you are good enough then they to can aspire to be in that pay bracket. If they can't and go into a sulk then they have the wrong attitude.

The only exception to this is if some of the young first team players are on a pittance. There were rumours Charnely was looking for a part time job he was on so little. No idea if there was anything in that but even then that would just be wrong in itself regardless of Sam's new deal.

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Quote: DaveO "I remember the days when Hanley, Edwards and Gregory would go and demand a wage rise as soon as they found out one of the others got one. They supposedly usually got the pay rise as well. The thing is though they were all top class players and you didn't see Ged Byrne following them in asking for the same because he knew he would never get it! I suspect few if any of our players think they are in a position to make similar demands as truly great players and I also suspect they are quite happy to get paid what they are worth when they have proven they are actually worth something.

Sam getting a big day ought to tell them that if you are good enough then they to can aspire to be in that pay bracket. If they can't and go into a sulk then they have the wrong attitude.

The only exception to this is if some of the young first team players are on a pittance. There were rumours Charnely was looking for a part time job he was on so little. No idea if there was anything in that but even then that would just be wrong in itself regardless of Sam's new deal.'"

Your dead right with that post DaveO, if it is true, then those players should, in my opinion be grateful to be playing for a team like Wigan, lots of players can only dream about that.

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