I can’t see huge changes in how we do things until such a time Lenagan himself walks away. In that case it takes a pretty special coach to deal with how we do things (promoting from within of players and coaches, regular exits of our best players etc) and whilst Wane may be a comfort blanket of a choice, I can’t think of anybody who I’d have full faith in to make those circumstances work.

Well he did top the league and take us very close to winning the Grand Final to be fair. Clearly it's all gone wrong now but it made sense to give him the chance this season.

I'm hoping that tomorrows fans forum is an honest (as promised) and frank communication between both supporters and club officials that leaves no relevant questions unanswered. I'm talking everything from IL's future plans to the clubs intentions over the next season or two.

If the club draw a massive line in the sand, put plans in place to recover and rebuild. Put in procedures for improvement both on and off the field then I think most supporters will support this.

Try and pull the wool over fans faces with a fake forum and it will do more harm than good, especially regarding much needed 2022 seasons ticket and merchandise revenue.

I do believe the forum should be recorded and delayed footage released (24hrs at the latest). A live stream could expose embarrassing comments which neither the club nor supporters need at this moment in time.

I have no argument about that.

All I'm saying/doing is offering up a bit of caution for the people looking for a magic NRL wand that will solve all of our issues.

Lam had, on paper, the type of CV that many on here would love us to now sign. Part of a few successful NRL systems, head coach experience at PNG and he was the assistant manager for Australia when they won the World Cup.

I agree - NRL does not always = good. The club need to take their time, do their homework and due diligence and make sure the right appointment is made. Maybe the club are doing that and will surprise us all, but I have to say the last few years don't give me much hope at the moment.

Great point.

It’s not easy to “get a Madge” type coach as people make out.

I can’t get my head round people not wanting Wane back, I really can’t.

I'm of the opinion that the coaching team definitely needs some fresh ideas and would benefit from someone new coming in but I don't think it needs to be the head coach. Sure, Lam theoretically should have brought some fresh ideas to the side but you have to wonder how much research and homework was actually done before he was appointed, and how much was simply down to him being Radlinski's favourite ex-teammate and someone willing to be in charge for just a year. Any new idea won't help - we need good ideas!

I doubt there are many coaches that are genuinely good at every aspect of a head coach role. It makes sense that it's a team effort and that the assistant coaches can often play a big part. Matty Peet seems to be primarily our defensive coach and our defence got noticeably worse after he left and noticeably better when he returned. Even now our defence seems to be okay. Peet seems to be doing that job well. If he can pick the right players, motivate them, make the right decisions during a game then he can be a good head coach. But if he is to be head coach I think we definitely need to bring in a new assistant that can focus on the attacking aspects of the game.

Something which really irritates me regarding people who slate Wane is the fact he gets zero credit for games (and there were plenty of them) in which we played some very good rugby.

I'm not just talking end of seasons either nor am I just talking 2012. Some people seemingly love to critique those games and hammer Wane for instances where we won by grinding out results or when occasionally a really poor result would occur but those criticising never offset that by praising the excellent rugby we played time and time again during his tenure.

I really enjoyed some of the stuff we played under Shaun and although it may be an extremely unfashionable thing to say for some, it certainly isn't for me.

You only have to listen to the Out of Your League podcast with Sam Tomkins to get a feel for how Wane operates and how he drives standards upwards. I've also heard stories of when he became head coach how he'd insist on small things like everyone speaking to the coach driver when getting on and off especially to say thank you when exiting the coach. I love that sort've stuff.

Wane is a big yes from me as long as he doesn't conflict with whoever will be head coach. Can Wane work at Wigan and not be head coach? I think it could be a conflict of interest. I would assume he will stay on as England coach for another year so he can have a crack at the world cup but can he have his hand in without wanting to control it all?

Is that some kind of sick joke?

Move on from consistent success we had under Wane?

Had being the word - past performance is no indication of future performance. Like all the ex-players we've re-signed, None performed at their previous level.

well it cant be the present as hes not here....