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Quote: Jukesays "Did nothing wrong jonh
Hes been pretty good since the restart

Isa had thebquitest game I think I've ver seen him have, but that doesnt mean I'd come on here and have a go after a 50point win'"


I saw the OP and just scrolled on. It's selective praise/criticism with some - neither Greenwood or Isa did much right or wrong.

Speaking of other guys who get no knocked...

I thought Burgess and Bibby both played well. Burgess showed some good pace to get past Watkins and slip the ball back to Faz for his 1st. Thought he showed plenty of enthusiasm in defence too. Bibby also put a shift in and was almost Davies or Sarge like with his first hit up carries. Great break for French's first try too.

I know others disagree, but I'm struggling to think of any club who could call on quality like that for their 3rd and 4th choice winger options.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "I saw the OP and just scrolled on. It's selective praise/criticism with some - neither Greenwood or Isa did much right or wrong.

Speaking of other guys who get no knocked...

I thought Burgess and Bibby both played well. Burgess showed some good pace to get past Watkins and slip the ball back to Faz for his 1st. Thought he showed plenty of enthusiasm in defence too. Bibby also put a shift in and was almost Davies or Sarge like with his first hit up carries. Great break for French's first try too.

I know others disagree, but I'm struggling to think of any club who could call on quality like that for their 3rd and 4th choice winger options.'"


Another quote of mine from our WhatsApp group

Apart from that dropped ball Budgie been great

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Burgess has shown signs of getting back to his best this season. His pace looks to be back and he’s building his confidence up.

I could see him absolutely smashing it under Watson next season.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I agree he’s probably going. It feels like there’s a 5-10% chance of him staying but every so often those sort of chances come in. I think we just need to presume he’s going and work on anything else being a bonus.

What amazes me with French is that he’s struggled to hold a spot in the NRL. It’s a crazy league the NRL. There is so much quality in it but there’s also a number of players who seem to have stolen a living and then a number of players like French who seem to just get left out in the cold when they’re freakish athletes.'"


I’m going to come in with an unpopular opinion here. But I don’t think French is good enough for NRL. He isn’t particularly skilful in terms of passing/kicking. He’s very fast and has a great step, but he isn’t the biggest/strongest and defences are generally better in the NRL than Super League.

I think he’s at his level right now if I’m honest. I see him as someone like a Amos Roberts or George Carmont who were never top NRL players, but were excellent in Super League.

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Quote: JWarriors "I’m going to come in with an unpopular opinion here. But I don’t think French is good enough for NRL. He isn’t particularly skilful in terms of passing/kicking. He’s very fast and has a great step, but he isn’t the biggest/strongest and defences are generally better in the NRL than Super League.

I think he’s at his level right now if I’m honest. I see him as someone like a Amos Roberts or George Carmont who were never top NRL players, but were excellent in Super League.'"


Completely agree with this . Also don’t think he would shine in a tight playoff game / final . Hope I’m proven wrong.

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Quote: Jukesays "Did nothing wrong jonh
Hes been pretty good since the restart

Isa had thebquitest game I think I've ver seen him have, but that doesnt mean I'd come on here and have a go after a 50point win'"


Can we at least have a go at BFUT?

I know it was his first game back but still...

5 carries for 30 metres
18 tackles, 2 missed

Compares to Bullock:
13 carries for 134 metres
23 tackles, 0 missed

And Singleton (first start since March):
13 carries for 70 metres
25 tackles, 2 missed

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Quote: Wigg'n "Can we at least have a go at BFUT?

I know it was his first game back but still...

5 carries for 30 metres
18 tackles, 2 missed

Compares to Bullock

I'm under orders to lay off BFUT
Hes been seen posting a picture with a t-shirt that says "End Hate crime" and think hes aimingnthat at me.
Don't forget he pressured the kicker for the French try icon_wink.gif

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Quote: NickyKiss "It was encouraging to hear Lammy say we’re not giving up on keeping him. It sounded like we still think there’s a chance and I really hope there is. He is sublime and as Wigan fans we’ve not had enough opportunities to watch him in the flesh. I know it’s ridiculous but I can’t help wonder if we could come to some sort of arrangement that allows him to have a few weeks at home mid season. That feels ridiculous typing it but if there are ways if facilitating him staying, we’d be daft not to look at them.'"


For me, French confirmed he'd signed for Parra in his post-match interview. Absolute textbook example of how to lie and dodge a question badly.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Can we at least have a go at BFUT?

I know it was his first game back but still...

5 carries for 30 metres
18 tackles, 2 missed

Compares to Bullock

Do you know how many minutes our props did?

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Quote: JWarriors "I’m going to come in with an unpopular opinion here. But I don’t think French is good enough for NRL. He isn’t particularly skilful in terms of passing/kicking. He’s very fast and has a great step, but he isn’t the biggest/strongest and defences are generally better in the NRL than Super League.

I think he’s at his level right now if I’m honest. I see him as someone like a Amos Roberts or George Carmont who were never top NRL players, but were excellent in Super League.'"


Depends what you mean by ‘good enough for the NRL’. If you mean good enough as in good enough to play in the NRL, then he’s more than good enough. If you mean good enough as in would he terrorise teams like last night, then he’s probably not but not many are. What I never like to buy in to is this opinion that some British fans seem to have (I’m not saying you’re one by the way) that the NRL is full of super humans and that there are very few players over here who could manage to play in that competition. It really isn’t and we’ve seen plenty of examples recently of decent superleague players going over and excelling. Guys like Sutton, Hodgson, Cooper, Whitehead etc weren’t considered top players in their positions over here but all have smashed it in the NRL.

Going back to French, it may be as a winger or it may be at fullback but the guy has more than enough talent to hold a place in the NRL. Why he didn’t before stumps me. Maybe he lost confidence, maybe he’s just developed his game now or he may just have realised what he’s give up and has buckled down but I’ve seen some real average lads playing on the wings in the NRL this year and he’d walk in ahead of those guys. You compare him to Carmont and Amos Roberts and it’s probably a good comparison (especially Roberts) but you ask could he play in the NRL? Well both of those guys did and to a good standard, so French like those two could as well. Just checked and Amos Roberts scored 108 try’s in 177 NRL games so I wouldn’t downplay what a good player he was over there.

He is better suited to this league though and fingers crossed we pull off a miracle and keep him.

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Quote: JWarriors "I’m going to come in with an unpopular opinion here. But I don’t think French is good enough for NRL. He isn’t particularly skilful in terms of passing/kicking. He’s very fast and has a great step, but he isn’t the biggest/strongest and defences are generally better in the NRL than Super League.

I think he’s at his level right now if I’m honest. I see him as someone like a Amos Roberts or George Carmont who were never top NRL players, but were excellent in Super League.'"


Roberts was a top NRL player

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Quote: NickyKiss "Depends what you mean by ‘good enough for the NRL’. If you mean good enough as in good enough to play in the NRL, then he’s more than good enough. If you mean good enough as in would he terrorise teams like last night, then he’s probably not but not many are. What I never like to buy in to is this opinion that some British fans seem to have (I’m not saying you’re one by the way) that the NRL is full of super humans and that there are very few players over here who could manage to play in that competition. It really isn’t and we’ve seen plenty of examples recently of decent superleague players going over and excelling. Guys like Sutton, Hodgson, Cooper, Whitehead etc weren’t considered top players in their positions over here but all have smashed it in the NRL.

Going back to French, it may be as a winger or it may be at fullback but the guy has more than enough talent to hold a place in the NRL. Why he didn’t before stumps me. Maybe he lost confidence, maybe he’s just developed his game now or he may just have realised what he’s give up and has buckled down but I’ve seen some real average lads playing on the wings in the NRL this year and he’d walk in ahead of those guys. You compare him to Carmont and Amos Roberts and it’s probably a good comparison (especially Roberts) but you ask could he play in the NRL? Well both of those guys did and to a good standard, so French like those two could as well. Just checked and Amos Roberts scored 108 try’s in 177 NRL games so I wouldn’t downplay what a good player he was over there.

He is better suited to this league though and fingers crossed we pull off a miracle and keep him.'"


I think he'd struggle if they stick him on the wing - he'd be physically out matched by bigger and stronger players. It's almost a pre-requisite to be a man mountain on the wing over there. I think Iv seen reports/interviews saying he was frustrated being picked on the wing and he was always looking for a chance to play fullback. He also got slated for one particular performance where he only made one or two carries in the whole game.

Pick him at full back and he'll stand out even in the NRL but it would be a risk to go to Parramatta knowing who he has to displace. If he doesnt start well he might end up getting stuck out on the wing again.

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Sublimely awesome last night, Powell MoM for me, Just a shame Lockers will come back next week for 17 minutes, give 3 headshots and a knock on thus disrupting the fantastic work the boys have put in, Just as we start moving forward he pulls us back down

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Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "Sublimely awesome last night, Powell MoM for me, Just a shame Lockers will come back next week for 17 minutes, give 3 headshots and a knock on thus disrupting the fantastic work the boys have put in, Just as we start moving forward he pulls us back down'"



Why?
Why?
Why?

Why could you not just give the team some credit in your post without having to mention SOL. Just this once would have been nice. Your continuous obsession around him is embarrassing mate, I'm embarrassed for you. I'm convinced you're a troll.

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Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "Sublimely awesome last night, Powell MoM for me, Just a shame Lockers will come back next week for 17 minutes, give 3 headshots and a knock on thus disrupting the fantastic work the boys have put in, Just as we start moving forward he pulls us back down'"


Not getting involved in your usual attempts on trying to get a rise from people on Lockers but I’ve probably got to the point of agreeing that I’d leave him out now unless he covered for injuries. He’s played 20-30 mins a game when he’s been fit, had a mare in the semi final and even on limited minutes, he’s picked up a couple more injuries. It’s too much of a risk to pick him because in these end of season games you don’t want to play with 16 men.

My starting pack now would be the one from last night, so it’s just the make up of the bench that needs thinking about. We know what our first choice 1-7 will be if they’re all fit and we know Clubb will be on the bench, so there are 3 spots left if Lockers is out.

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Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
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SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
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Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
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Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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