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Quote: Bigredwarrior "It is mate.

Deliberate 1. A player shall be penalised if he deliberately knocks on or passes forward.

Accidental 2. If, after knocking-on accidentally, the player knocking-on regains or kicks the ball before it touches the ground, a goal post, cross bar or an opponent, then play shall be allowed to proceed.
Otherwise play shall stop and a scrum shall be formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.

Charge-down 3. To charge-down a kick is permissible and is not a knock-on.

Heading the ball 4. It is illegal to head the ball in a forward direction.


how many penalties have you seenfor someone sticking out a hand and knocking on the ball? Every forward pass is intentional as they throw the ball. So it should be a penalty not a scrum?

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Mate you said the rule needed changing to make a deliberate knock on a penalty. I said it already is and you point blank came back at me with no it isn’t.
The rule is there for everyone to see. A deliberate knock on is indeed a penalty but you’re right, referees rarely award a penalty. Their interpretation of the law therefore must be that the winger is trying to intercept the pass. We don’t need a rule change, we need the rule to be applied by the official.

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "Mate you said the rule needed changing to make a deliberate knock on a penalty. I said it already is and you point blank came back at me with no it isn’t.
The rule is there for everyone to see. A deliberate knock on is indeed a penalty but you’re right, referees rarely award a penalty. Their interpretation of the law therefore must be that the winger is trying to intercept the pass. We don’t need a rule change, we need the rule to be applied by the official.'"


I never said it needed changing as its not penalised

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Quote: Pieman "I never said it needed changing as its not penalised'"


You said ‘Slightly OT but deliberate knock ons should be a penalty’. I replied by saying that a deliberate knock on already is a penalty and you said ‘no it’s not’. Forgive me if I misunderstood anything? It doesn’t matter much to be fair.

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Interesting, I don’t think I have ever seen a penalty for a deliberate knock on in RL.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Interesting, I don’t think I have ever seen a penalty for a deliberate knock on in RL.'"


It’s a long time since I’ve seen one given to be fair. It’s in the rules though and my guess it that the officials interpret it as an attempt to intercept.

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "You said ‘Slightly OT but deliberate knock ons should be a penalty’. I replied by saying that a deliberate knock on already is a penalty and you said ‘no it’s not’. Forgive me if I misunderstood anything? It doesn’t matter much to be fair.'"


no I didnt

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Quote: Pieman "no I didnt'"


I’m not sure what it s you’re trying to argue about or why?

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Quote: Pieman "no I didnt'"

I have John Cleese as the voice of Pieman, and Michael Palin as the voice of Bid RedWarrior in my head, now!

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Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "I have John Cleese as the voice of Pieman, and Michael Palin as the voice of Bid RedWarrior in my head, now!'"

No you haven't.

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is this the 10 minute argument

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Quote: Captain Hook "is this the 10 minute argument'"


You’ve already had it.

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Quote: post "You’ve already had it.'"

I may be arguing in my own time..

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Quote: Phuzzy "I may be arguing in my own time..'"


That was never 5 minutes just now !

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Quote: Egg Chasing "To the letter of the law it is a knock on, but the lack of intent makes it hard to stomach because you can't get your arms out the way in that instance. If Austin is judged to lose it behind him as he is going down for example and it hits Tommy's arm as it did then Wire get 6 more tackles.'"

He could have kept his arm away. ..but it would have deemed a red card for a shoulder barge.
You can't have it both ways.

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