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| Good result very average performance sums it up for me. That may be a little harsh given the defence on display which was obviously very good, although rarely was it tested but when it was we passed the test Saints posed us.
Attack was still shocking and our ability to hold the ball and complete sets poor but conditions played a part in that as well.
Very impressed with the bench today really made a difference. The extra zip round the ruck when we rotated the hooker was a real bonus and something we have not seen at Wigan for a number of years.
Smiths in game management was much better and he has one of his better games although again some of his passing accuracy was shocking, were it better we could have comfortably run in a few more.
Gelling and Bateman were the highlight for me, but I think credit to Faz who went about his business with quiet efficiency and Tomkins who again was controlling everything from the back.
Overall for me it was a 6 out of 10, but that's all it needed to be so can't bag the team for that. Don't think we got out of 3rd gear but we didn't have to.
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| Quote: jonh "Good result very average performance sums it up for me. That may be a little harsh given the defence on display which was obviously very good, although rarely was it tested but when it was we passed the test Saints posed us.
Attack was still shocking and our ability to hold the ball and complete sets poor but conditions played a part in that as well.
Very impressed with the bench today really made a difference. The extra zip round the ruck when we rotated the hooker was a real bonus and something we have not seen at Wigan for a number of years.
Smiths in game management was much better and he has one of his better games although again some of his passing accuracy was shocking, were it better we could have comfortably run in a few more.
Gelling and Bateman were the highlight for me, but I think credit to Faz who went about his business with quiet efficiency and Tomkins who again was controlling everything from the back.
Overall for me it was a 6 out of 10, but that's all it needed to be so can't bag the team for that. Don't think we got out of 3rd gear but we didn't have to.'"
That's a fair assessment. I thought our discipline was much improved (we gave away our first penalty with 10 seconds left to go to half time) despite Saints slowing us down, constant offsides and forcing knock-ins with hands in the all at the tackle.
That said we threw a couple of forward passes and suffered a number of times due to lost ball through Gelling, Flower, Sarginson and Gildart (who had a game to forget).
They were poor, there's no doubt but our defence snuffed them out and they never really looked like scoring despite their good spell in the first half where they forced us to drop out 3-4 times.
I thought Farrell got better as they game went on, Bateman was his usual self and Gelling was very good, deserved MOM.
A good win but still lots of improvement needed from us if we are to progress past the semi finals (especially if its Hull or Wire away). I came away from the ground pretty pleased as it was a definite improvement on last weeks performance as Cas where I thought our discipline was poor.
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| Thought Tautai was brilliant again too. He was all over the place in defence and some solid carries.
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| Quote: jonh "Good result very average performance sums it up for me. That may be a little harsh given the defence on display which was obviously very good, although rarely was it tested but when it was we passed the test Saints posed us.
Attack was still shocking and our ability to hold the ball and complete sets poor but conditions played a part in that as well.
Very impressed with the bench today really made a difference. The extra zip round the ruck when we rotated the hooker was a real bonus and something we have not seen at Wigan for a number of years.
Smiths in game management was much better and he has one of his better games although again some of his passing accuracy was shocking, were it better we could have comfortably run in a few more.
Gelling and Bateman were the highlight for me, but I think credit to Faz who went about his business with quiet efficiency and Tomkins who again was controlling everything from the back.
Overall for me it was a 6 out of 10, but that's all it needed to be so can't bag the team for that. Don't think we got out of 3rd gear but we didn't have to.'"
Good post, agree with all of that. It was the right performance for the right time and still enough encouragement that we can build from here - we hope. Farrell looked off the pace last week but he was on the money last night, we've missed his attacking threat. Same with Gells.
Johnh do these ups and downs in form have anything to do with the conditioning? Should we expect slumps at certain points in the season? Maybe that's why we're always poor around summer.
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| Quote: Orrell Lad "Good post, agree with all of that. It was the right performance for the right time and still enough encouragement that we can build from here - we hope. Farrell looked off the pace last week but he was on the money last night, we've missed his attacking threat. Same with Gells.
Johnh do these ups and downs in form have anything to do with the conditioning? Should we expect slumps at certain points in the season? Maybe that's why we're always poor around summer.'"
I feel the same. Great to nil them, effort was great. A few better individual performances and at times we seemed to look more comfortable moving the ball around. We are still waiting though for an all round performance, still way too many errors.
One thing I will say, however bad we were in the last game, Saints were even worse last night. Yes we defended well, but the effort in attack from Saints was as bad as I've seen from any team in a long long time.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Thought Tautai was brilliant again too. He was all over the place in defence and some solid carries.'"
He was brilliant and has been for the vast majority of the season. This guy is a fantastic impact prop forward. We had Feka for all those years and in a couple of them he was a real menace but it was always on really short stints. Tautai is managing to produce high impact over longer spells and he's very valuable for us at the moment.
I didn't think I'd be posting that this time last year!
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| Quote: Ziggy Stardust "Well i think your wrong.
People are not slagging the team off.
The players are working very hard and busting a gut to get these vital wins.
The fact that there seems to lack of intelligent game plan, bench choice..etc is the coach / coaches fault.
We have a lot of talented players, we could win both cups and shield with the players we have.
But we don't, we haven't won anything for years at a club with probably the biggest resources in the league.
That's why a 25-0 over Saints is a superb result, but it doesn't solve the bigger problems we have.'"
I am not bothered what you think, you obviously think I'm referring to you why is that?
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| Quote: Ziggy Stardust "Banned for telling the truth...Hmm..jog on Muppet
Enjoyed the scoreline, not the mistake ridden low quality game
Great defence..nothing else...
Keep clapping
Crowd unhappy due to the clueless attack, or did i imagine that...'"
Jog on Muppet? Grow up lad.
To be honest your constant "Shaun" posts full of "emojis" are becoming a little bit tedious now, its not funny and its a little bit embarrassing.
And no, nobody round me was "unhappy" at beating our arch rivals 25-0 at all, in fact, we all had a great time.
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| What happened with FPN when he was subbed off behind the posts at the Saints fans' end? He got a fair bit of stick and looked like he made a gesture back and the Saints fans started throwing things and the reserve ref went over to talk to the stewards?
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| Quote: Wigg'n "What happened with FPN when he was subbed off behind the posts at the Saints fans' end? He got a fair bit of stick and looked like he made a gesture back and the Saints fans started throwing things and the reserve ref went over to talk to the stewards?'"
Apparently something was thrown at him, I couldnt tell what gesture back from FPN was, but it seemed to upset them.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "He was brilliant and has been for the vast majority of the season. This guy is a fantastic impact prop forward. We had Feka for all those years and in a couple of them he was a real menace but it was always on really short stints. Tautai is managing to produce high impact over longer spells and he's very valuable for us at the moment.
I didn't think I'd be posting that this time last year!'"
It's incredible, isn't it? When he first arrived, and for quite a while afterwards, he just didn't look 'Wigan class'. Lately he looks a different player to that, and is turning in these big performances regularly. When he got the ball, it used to be "Jeez, I'll bet he drops it again", now it's "how many more metres is he going to drag defenders with him this time?"
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| Quote: Orrell Lad "Good post, agree with all of that. It was the right performance for the right time and still enough encouragement that we can build from here - we hope. Farrell looked off the pace last week but he was on the money last night, we've missed his attacking threat. Same with Gells.
Johnh do these ups and downs in form have anything to do with the conditioning? Should we expect slumps at certain points in the season? Maybe that's why we're always poor around summer.'"
I don't think it is a conditioning issue. I think if it were we would show consistent performance throughout a 5-6 week spell I don't think we have done that, we have been up and mainly down all season.
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| Quote: moto748 "It's incredible, isn't it? When he first arrived, and for quite a while afterwards, he just didn't look 'Wigan class'. Lately he looks a different player to that, and is turning in these big performances regularly. When he got the ball, it used to be "Jeez, I'll bet he drops it again", now it's "how many more metres is he going to drag defenders with him this time?"
Agree entirely. I was at Wakefield when it had just been announced that we were signing him. They beat us that day and he absolutely battered us. He's only now showing that sort of form and commitment and cutting out the errors. Long may it continue!
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| Quote: jonh "I don't think it is a conditioning issue. I think if it were we would show consistent performance throughout a 5-6 week spell I don't think we have done that, we have been up and mainly down all season.'"
I don't see what the debate is, it's clearly due to the amount of injuries we've had. I know some of our fans are sick of hearing about it and trying to not use it as an excuse, others just don't want to give our coach a bit of credit for getting results with a battered team, but it's a fact, we've had a ridiculous amount of injuries this season that's hampered our ability to play "attractive" rugby.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "He was brilliant and has been for the vast majority of the season. This guy is a fantastic impact prop forward. We had Feka for all those years and in a couple of them he was a real menace but it was always on really short stints. Tautai is managing to produce high impact over longer spells and he's very valuable for us at the moment.
I didn't think I'd be posting that this time last year!'"
Nicky do you not think that TT should be starting each game? Ideally we should be getting more minutes out of him.
He gives us go forward virtually every time he takes in the ball and could be a solution to our slow starts to games.
Vastly improved player and I can now understand why the Wakey fans we're singing his praises when we signed him
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