Fair enough, I agree Whatmough & Gillmeister are examples of world class palyers of a similar size to Farrell. I was thinking of British examples of world class back rows & couldn't come up with one. No-one else has yet. My point from the start, if some had bothered to read the thread, was that though I agree Farrell is a cracking club player he is too light to be international class & possibly he will develop into an Andy Platt type prop. So the genius suggesting a 17.5 stone front row is currently comparable looks as daft as he does suggesting I am a Loiner. At no point have I intended to be disrespectful to Farrell. It was a number of inbred hillbillies starting the insults, insecure when someone not from these parts tries to debate.

Another cracking club player but not the quality we need/needed to beat The Aussies.

Inbred hillbillies? Can someone please remove this annoyance? I know others on here delight in ridiculing him and I am loth to take away their fun but come on.....

What does size matter? If he's good enough, he's big enough.

No need for the insults, shows a real lack of intelligence on your part.

Cut out the personal insults please.

Perhaps Liam's peformances in the first two league games justifies Shaun Wane's decision to give him the 12 shirt.
This was obviously promotion for him and in the first two games he has proved he's worth it.
SW made his decision way back when things were in a state of flux with Gaz Hock.
Whether SW's move with the 12 shirt was directed towards Hock or for the benefit of Farrell I've no idea.
What is apparent is that Liam Farrell has stepped up his game as he's stepped up into the staring thirteen.
Even if Hock or Hansen returned tomorrow, which they won't, figuratively speaking who would drop Liam Farrell?
Certainly not me!

Genuine question, why do you have to think of British players his size that are/have been world class?

You acknowledge players his build can be world class so why does it matter where that are from?

Power is to do with speed x strength. If Faz puts on significant weight he would sacrifice his ability to generate speed. His strength has been highlighted.

He also has a first class mental approach to the game ie work ethic and intelligent lines of running.

If as you freely admit lads a similar size to him can be world class, why would the fact he is British affect this potential?

So he can start an argument?

You think?

I would reply but i fear you may retort to your usual of sending PM's pleading that you "are just trying to start an intelligent debate" blah blah

Why does he persist with us "Inbreds", good of him to make the effort i suppose, we should be more grateful.

I think we should start to call him "thrush"

I suppose it's a slight improvement on the "Wigan Imbreads" comment on the Wigan facebook page posted by some dozy Wire chavvy bint on Saturday.

Cracking player is the ginger pearl.