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| This is how i see it...
1. Sam
2. Roberts
3. Charnley
4. Carmont
5. Pat
6. Finch
7. Tommy
8. Fielden
9. McIllorum
10. Lima
11. Hansen
12. Farrell
13. Lockers
14. Flower
15. Mossop
16. Lauaki
17. Logan Tomkins
18. Dudson
19. Hock
20. Tuson
21. Prescott
Alternively - 9. Tommy -> 7/6. Sam -> 1. Roberts -> 2. Charnley -> 3. (New Signing?)
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| Quote: ArcticGorilla "This is how i see it...
1. Sam
2. Roberts
3. Charnley
4. Carmont
5. Pat
6. Finch
7. Tommy
8. Fielden
9. McIllorum
10. Lima
11. Hansen
12. Farrell
13. Lockers
14. Flower
15. Mossop
16. Lauaki
17. Logan Tomkins
18. Dudson
19. Hock
20. Tuson
21. Prescott
Alternively - 9. Tommy -> 7/6. Sam -> 1. Roberts -> 2. Charnley -> 3. (New Signing?)'"
if so we've no chance of a top 2 finish.
not that top 2 matters like, but from this season, that team is a few notches down in quality
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| 1. Sam Tomkins
2. Amos Roberts
3. Josh Charnley
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Joe Mellor
7. Brett Finch
8. Stuart Fielden
9. Thomas Leuluai
10. Lee Mossop
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Gareth Hock
13. Sean O'loughlin
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14. Jeff Lima
15. Paul Prescott
16. Liam Farrell/Lauaki
17. Mike McIlorum
Something like that is how I see it.
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| Quote: cadoo "1. Sam Tomkins
2. Amos Roberts
3. Josh Charnley
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Joe Mellor
7. Brett Finch
8. Stuart Fielden
9. Thomas Leuluai
10. Lee Mossop
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Gareth Hock
13. Sean O'loughlin
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14. Jeff Lima
15. Paul Prescott
16. Liam Farrell/Lauaki
17. Mike McIlorum
Something like that is how I see it.'"
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| Im not convinced with Charnley at centre, he has been class on the wing for a full season for us. Dont fix what isnt broken I say. Not to mention relying on Amos to go a full season without caving is risky. We simply need a out and out centre.
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3.
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Brett Finch
7. Joe Mellor
8. Stuart Fielden
9. Thomas Leuluai
10. Lee Mossop
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Liam Farrell
13. Sean O'Loughlin
14. Micky McIlorum
15. Jeff Lima
16. Paul Prescott
17. Epalahame Lauaki
18. Gareth Hock
19. Amos Roberts
20. Darrell Goulding
21. Chris Tuson
22. Gil Dudson
23. Ben Flower
24. Jack Hughes
25. Logan Tomkins
26. Dom Crosby
27. Sam Powell
28. Ryan King
29. Matty Russell
30. Stefan Marsh
I think its time for Mellor to take that step up, he will have the experience of Finch, Lockers, Leuluai and Sam to help him. Its time to take a risk on him because the the positives of it working out for us massively outweigh the negatives if it doesnt.
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| If the season started next week I think we'd see Leuluai at 7 and Goulding at 3 tbh. I can't see a new coach getting too many you g kids in straight away or trying players in new positions even if it is Wane. He'll give plenty of lads a shot over the course of next season but they'll have to bide their time initially IMO.
We'll go something like-
Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Finch
Leuluai
Fielden
McIlorum
Lima
Hansen
Hock
O'Loughlin
Subs
Mossop
Prescott
Hock
Farrell
I think Micky Mac will be asked to play long minutes at the start of the year but eventually guys like Mellor and Logan Tomkins will come in to the mix.
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| I believe Andy coley career as a qs has fallen through, so it maybe worth combining his new role with the club with a playing contract in the same way Deacon was originally signed.
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| Quote: FIOS "Im not convinced with Charnley at centre, he has been class on the wing for a full season for us. Dont fix what isnt broken I say. Not to mention relying on Amos to go a full season without caving is risky. We simply need a out and out centre.
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
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4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Brett Finch
7. Joe Mellor
8. Stuart Fielden
9. Thomas Leuluai
10. Lee Mossop
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Liam Farrell
13. Sean O'Loughlin
14. Micky McIlorum
15. Jeff Lima
16. Paul Prescott
17. Epalahame Lauaki
18. Gareth Hock
19. Amos Roberts
20. Darrell Goulding
21. Chris Tuson
22. Gil Dudson
23. Ben Flower
24. Jack Hughes
25. Logan Tomkins
26. Dom Crosby
27. Sam Powell
28. Ryan King
29. Matty Russell
30. Stefan Marsh
I think its time for Mellor to take that step up, he will have the experience of Finch, Lockers, Leuluai and Sam to help him. Its time to take a risk on him because the the positives of it working out for us massively outweigh the negatives if it doesnt.'"
Isn't it his original positon?
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| Quote: ArcticGorilla "Isn't it his original positon?'"
I don't think so. I thought he was always outside Marsh in the U20s
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| Quote: NickyKiss "If the season started next week I think we'd see Leuluai at 7 and Goulding at 3 tbh. I can't see a new coach getting too many you g kids in straight away or trying players in new positions even if it is Wane. He'll give plenty of lads a shot over the course of next season but they'll have to bide their time initially IMO.
We'll go something like-
Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Finch
Leuluai
Fielden
McIlorum
Lima
Hansen
Hock
O'Loughlin
Subs
Mossop
Prescott
Hock
Farrell
I think Micky Mac will be asked to play long minutes at the start of the year but eventually guys like Mellor and Logan Tomkins will come in to the mix.'"
2 Hocks are better than one i like your thinking
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| Quote: FIOS "Im not convinced with Charnley at centre, he has been class on the wing for a full season for us. Dont fix what isnt broken I say. Not to mention relying on Amos to go a full season without caving is risky. We simply need a out and out centre.
Lenagan has stated after tomkins going "We've looked around rugby league and there aren't really opportunities to get a centre of the right calibre to come to Wigan at this stage.
"We could go to Australia and get a middle-grade £100,000-plus-a-year centre but we don't want to do that.
"We would rather give young English players an opportunity. Darrell Goulding, for example, will get his opportunity again and Josh Charnley is another potential centre."
No world class centre replacement then
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| Quote: FAXE LUCAS "2 Hocks are better than one i like your thinking
Your not wrong! Ha.
Replace one with Lauaki. He's Hock mark II anyway.
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| Might have been posted before, but quote from IL on
"We would rather give young English players an opportunity. Darrell Goulding, for example, will get his opportunity again and Josh Charnley is another potential centre."'"
Looks like Dudson, Flower and Lauaki are our lot for the year. Worst off season strengthening ever?
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| Quote: Kernel "Might have been posted before, but quote from IL on
On paper, the worst re-strengthening in recent times was at the end of 2009, when we only got Deacon in after being poor for most of the previous season - and look what happened then. Other than a few people who go regularly to watch the U20's/U18's, most of us have no real idea what the talent is like in these teams, so we can't really judge whether the players coming through will strengthen or weaken the side.
The current management set-up have seen as right over the last few years & have earned our trust on this. It's not like a big name centre from the NRL is a guaranteed success anyway - Vaeliki for starters. If we did sign someone on a 100k+ a year contract it may prevent us from being able to keep talented youngsters, which is exactly what we all criticised previous regimes for doing.
The big challenge is 2013, when Finch, Carmont & possibly Leuluai all go - if the young players don't step up this season, we may well see 'big' names coming in this time next year. My hope is that this doesn't happen, as I think the current 'grow your own' strategy is the right one.
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Dont speak so soon.
Might REED something in the paper....
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