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| Hansen was missed in the same way that pretty much any first team player is missed when they are out. They are in the first team because of what they offer and when they are missing then those skills go missing too unless someone can replace them.
Ignoring the Farrell/Hansen debate, it's Tuson who basically came in to replace Hansen and there is no comparison. Hansen is solid if unspectacular and defends brilliantly whilst Tuson has been poor in defence and doesn't attack well enough to make up for that either. For that reason I think Hansen has been missed.
He hasn't been missed in the same way that a key player would, such as Sam Tomkins, O'Loughlin, Hoffman or Richards but when you take Hansen out of the side there is a weakness there. Lack of size is a problem when having Farrell and Tuson in the back row but Hansen is big enough to make a difference.
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| I wouldnt say we've missed him since hes been injured, but that doesnt mean his value to the team is any less. It just means that the other Second Rows we have - Hoffman, Farrell, Tuson and Hughes, have been performing to the high standard we expect.
Hansons workrate is second to none in that position and as soon as he is fit to play again, he will be straight back in the team. So he doesnt do the flashy stuff that everybody notices, but he does all the hard work, he would tackle a bull if it ran at him and he makes good meters in attack.
Looking forward to his return from injury because we will be much stronger with him than without.
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| Quote: dirtbag83 "We beat Huddersfield away with Sam and Joel. They're both useless!'"
This is what I was going to say. We beat Huddersfield without Sam and Huddersfield have beat Warrington twice this season who are sitting top of the table.
By this logic, Sam is rubbish
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Just a quick reminder of a certain comment I was really ripped into over, a comment I made documenting how I said Harrison wouldn't be missed.
So let's review it stats men-have we missed him? We've won every single game since he was injured. Thats the only stat you really need to look at.
We recorded our most impressive win over quins in his absence.
All in all the answer no matter which silly stat you through at it, we've not missed him.'"
what a load of e you've just spouted there you could say that about any injured player we've had missing since start of the season if you wanted put it that way , H is a solid all round player so if your saying have we not missed his avg 40 tackles a game also his awesome trys what he s scored this season your deluded
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| Quote: The Ginger Pearl "I wouldnt say we've missed him since hes been injured, but that doesnt mean his value to the team is any less. It just means that the other Second Rows we have - Hoffman, Farrell, Tuson and Hughes, have been performing to the high standard we expect.
Hansons workrate is second to none in that position and as soon as he is fit to play again, he will be straight back in the team. So he doesnt do the flashy stuff that everybody notices, but he does all the hard work, he would tackle a bull if it ran at him and he makes good meters in attack.
Looking forward to his return from injury because we will be much stronger with him than without.'"
At last someone who sees the point. I've not (on this occasion discussed Hansens ability on any level) just backed up my original post-was he missed? The clear answer is no. Regardless of his ability he wasn't missed. I made a note of this after the cr@p I took for pointing out he won't be missed.
Anyway he's average at best. Many better in the SL. Wouldn't stsnd out at Wakey. Same goes for Goulding Coley and McM.
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| Quote: Barmy Salami "Seems to me like you have some sort of personal vendetta against H. Maybe he's in on something against you with John Stape.'"
Who's John stape?
You are a petty petty petty boy.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan " The clear answer is no. Regardless of his ability he wasn't missed.'"
The fact that people are disagreeing with that theory of yours rather renders your point I've quoted rather stupid doesn't it?
Hansen is a vital part of Wigan's team, and as others have pointed out, his absence has told in some of our performances of late.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Who's John stape?
You are a petty petty petty boy.'"
Mate, you made a thread to
A. Try and show how you were right and everybody else is wrong
B. Put down one of our own players
Pretty petty if you ask me
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| We miss his size in defence. Farrell and Tuson are small for second rowers and that tells when they're both on the field for extended periods.
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| Quote: DaveO "
Hansen is one of the most underrated players at the club and I did think he was finally getting some recognition but one thing is for sure, you don't keep getting new contracts at this club if you are poor.'"
what about karl pryce??
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| Quote: Mr. Grumpy "Mate, you made a thread to
A. Try and show how you were right and everybody else is wrong
B. Put down one of our own players
Pretty petty if you ask me'"
You are right to a degree. The amount of cr@p people get in here at times is shocking, even when they have a valid point or whether it's just an opinion. So forgive me for sticking one back.
I never even mentioned the cr@p I got a few years back for suggesting Sam would be a good FB.
The rest is history.
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| Because we haven't lost when Hansen didn't play doesn't mean he wasn't missed. Can you be sure the team wouldn't have played better if HH had been playing? You can win a game by 2 points, or you can blow a team away by 40 points, both would be wins but the performance completely different. Surely the only way you could prove he hadn't been missed would be to prove that if he played, the performance from the team would have been equal or worse, you can't prove that, so I don't see how you can claim you are correct and everyone else is wrong? It has been suggested (and I agree) that had HH played against Crusaders we may have conceded less points due to mistakes by (I think) Tuson, so that would suggest that he was missed in that game at least?
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Anyway he's average at best. Many better in the SL. Wouldn't stsnd out at Wakey. Same goes for Goulding Coley and McM.'"
Slightly OT but who would you sign on the same wages to replace these average at best players?
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| Quote: Dave26 "Because we haven't lost when Hansen didn't play doesn't mean he wasn't missed. Can you be sure the team wouldn't have played better if HH had been playing? You can win a game by 2 points, or you can blow a team away by 40 points, both would be wins but the performance completely different. Surely the only way you could prove he hadn't been missed would be to prove that if he played, the performance from the team would have been equal or worse, you can't prove that, so I don't see how you can claim you are correct and everyone else is wrong? It has been suggested (and I agree) that had HH played against Crusaders we may have conceded less points due to mistakes by (I think) Tuson, so that would suggest that he was missed in that game at least?
? Because I commented on several players not being good enough it's now upto me to recruit and replace? No.
If I thought you were honestly looking for a general chat on who I rate in RL I would have discussesd. However, considering the nature attitudes in here it was probably a prompt to get me to name players to then have a go at my picks.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "You are right to a degree. The amount of cr@p people get in here at times is shocking, even when they have a valid point or whether it's just an opinion. So forgive me for sticking one back.
I never even mentioned the cr@p I got a few years back for suggesting Sam would be a good FB.
I don't think I've read a thread where so many people have disagreed with the op. Not one has agreed with you yet. If we were to lose to Hull KR or Catalans next week does that mean, in your eyes, that we have missed him because its all down to one player and not the team or the squad depth.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "? Because I commented on several players not being good enough it's now upto me to recruit and replace? No.
If I thought you were honestly looking for a general chat on who I rate in RL I would have discussesd. However, considering the nature attitudes in here it was probably a prompt to get me to name players to then have a go at my picks.'"
That wasn't how it was intended, of course it's not up to you to recruit and replace, I would be interested to see which players you would rate as equivalent or better than those you named, sometimes as a fan of a team you have an exaggerated view of it's players.
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