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Quote: Conroy "Yes, because the Aussies really played the game in the 2nd half
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Quote: Odemwingie "It could of been stopped had Smith and McGuire not been the worst defenders I have seen in 18 years of watching international RL!

Hudds have shown on a few occasions how to defends against it when they beat saints.'"


They just needed to hold there position and not run out the line. A friend of mine last week told me Sam wasn`t good enough for england because of the way he runs out of the line a Leeds fan would you believe.

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Tomkins and Eastmond for 6 & 7 is excellent and Crabtree was IMo our best forward.
No doubt, knowing Smith as we do, he'll drop the three of them for next week.
We could well beat the Kiwis next week if that 2nd half performance can be repeated. Then the following week would bring another England V Australia clash.
Of the players to day who shouldn't play McGuire and Roby and the two most vulnerable but Smith will probably stick with them.

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Quote: flyingkelvin "Where did I say they did???'"


You didn't, i'm just saying that people are getting carried away with our 2nd half

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Quote: Conroy "You didn't, i'm just saying that people are getting carried away with our 2nd half'"
Was it not encouraging? They could have quit in the dressing room at half time, they didn't!

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Quote: flyingkelvin "Was it not encouraging? They could have quit in the dressing room at half time, they didn't!'"


Again....I guess so.

My opinion of the game was that we lost it in the 1st half due to lack of forward power and played in the 2nd.

Sam might as well have sat with me the ball he got in the first half. If we want to play Sinfield at first man then give him the 7 jersey and play Westerman at 13. It looked as though Smith wanted to make him look biz.

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Quote: robbierotten ".Billy Slater was on the recieving end a couple of times in the second half.'"


Good, he deserves it the tit.

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I love Billy

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Quote: pedro17 "Smith kept coming in and leaving gaps it was laughable.'"
At one point in the 2nd half, that whole side was open right from the middle of the field out to the wing. That would be unnaceptable in my Lads team, and he plays at U8's!

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If I'm being honest I can't stand the little $hit but he's a very good player and IMO is best yougster from this country since I 1st saw a young KC.

What I liked about him today and nearly everytime I've seen him is he plays with no fear and gets stuck in and very good in defence for a thin guy.

He was my England man of match today and it's pitty few other players couldn't play with the same attitude as Sam today.

I think few years down the line tomkins and eastmond would give the convicts something to think about at 6 and 7.

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Well done Sam, Ellis, Crabtree, Burgess did ok as well, but Maquire !

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Sam was excellent today, I thought, especially in the second half when he really started taking on the line. I also thought Burgess, Graham, Crabtree, Sinfield, Eastmond and Westwood had good games.

I disagree with Conroy's cynical view about the second half. I don't think Australia took their foot off the gass or anything like that. Given their tonking of us in the world cup, if they'd have had opportunities to muller us they would have done, and gleefully. As it is they got all petulant and dropped some ball too. I think it was rather fortunate for them that we were so totally rubbish in the first half. Had we played in the first half like we did in the second, I think we might have won that game. It certainly would have gone to the wire anyway.

I liked what I saw in the second half, bar a couple of players who can't seem to get their act together (McGuire and my own dear Roby, who really does need to practise his passing, bless him). If we can take that level of energy, skill, inventiveness and determination - or even a greater level of all those - to the match next week then I think we could beat the Kiwis. So long as our forwards can handle their big guys!

I'm not saying we WILL beat the Kiwis, but I have more hope after today's match than I did after seeing England play the Kumuls last year!

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Tomkins was fantastic in the second half.

I have to admit, I hate the little runt when he plays against Saints, but when he pulls on the england shirt, I love him to bits. One of only a small few, who you can tell has the win at all costs ethos. I just know he would go toe to toe with Gallen if the situation called for it such is his pride.

Youve got a goodun wigan, lets hope he becomes the player we all know he can become. Eastmond and Tomkins as our half backs for years to come. Love it.

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Quote: {Hogan} "Good, he deserves it the tit.'"


I have to agree about Slater....Great player though he is, what an absolute ar$e he can be with his attitude.

Imagine the stick he'd take in Super League from the crowds, with that type of demeanour.

Actually thought he was lucky to stay on at the end with his throwing the ball away antics....I think if Thurston hadn't already gone, then Ganson may just have shown him 10 minutes in the bin.... icon_cool.gif icon_cool.gif

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "I have to agree about Slater....Great player though he is, what an absolute ar$e he can be with his attitude.

Imagine the stick he'd take in Super League from the crowds, with that type of demeanour.

Actually thought he was lucky to stay on at the end with his throwing the ball away antics....I think if Thurston hadn't already gone, then Ganson may just have shown him 10 minutes in the bin....
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