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| Quote: SaintsFan "Hell yeah. I love rugby league and so I want rugby league to do well, in the UK and internationally. I hope Tomkins plays a blinder* (should Smith allow him to play) and even if he does get over run, he won't be the first and he won't be the last! Hopefully he will learn from the experience, whatever it is like, and see it as inspirational. I think that way even about the likes of Ryan Hall - and to think that way about a Leeds player after the last Grand Final must prove to anyone beyond any shadow of a doubt that I very much want rugby league to do well!
Likewise I really like Eastmond and hope he stays and plays well for you guys (and has shockers against us )
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "Absolutely you'll still run into cap issues, but you'll be able to plan and manage and be having other players naturally come through. It will mean letting some players go at some point, look at the storm having to let Folau go because they couldn't give him the kind of money the Broncos were waving around, or them having to let DJ potentially go.
It's a much nicer position to be in though, and when a few teams are in this position it will be a good indication that we're actually as nation starting to bring through and develop more quality young players.'"
Totally agree, it's what the salary cap was supposed to do , spread the talent a bit.
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| Lockyer's comment about Tomkins being exciting and they'll have to do more homework on him.
The Aussies had obviously never heard of him before they arrived here.
Mind you they might not have anything to worry about with Sam, knowing Tony Smith's ability to get it wrong he probably won't play him v the Aussies and Kiwis. After all Myler will be Smith first choice, won't he?
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| Quote: Father Ted "After all Myler will be Smith first choice, won't he?'"
If Smith plays Myler he should be fired, not because Myler is a bad player but because he has had one match in about three months and that is no preparation at all for an international.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Totally agree, it's what the salary cap was supposed to do , spread the talent a bit.'"
Why let teams who can't be ar$ed producing their own be allowed to receive this talent though?
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| Quote: MattyB "Why let teams who can't be ar$ed producing their own be allowed to receive this talent though?'"
Surely that is better than there being no talent available?
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| Quote: No1 Saint " (never really seen what the fuss is about McIlorum though).'"
With your comments on Micky Mac, he's a player that will develop into a fine hooker. He's hard as nails and will hit anything that comes his way, he IMO is one of the old fashioned style hookers that won't take any crap. He can improve his all round game though which I'm sure he will but he's the best young hooker that's come through our academy for a good while and will only improve IMO.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Surely that is better than there being no talent available?'"
And thats why we will continue to be 3rd (at best) behind Aus & NZ.
After a decade of SL and the Salary Cap ,just look at that England Team and compare it to the GB Team of a decade ago.
This competition has been dumbing down for 10 years and only now are people realising it. Look at the 'Bored of SL?' threads popping up on the Saints site.
It's gonna take a mammoth task from the likes of Wigan, Leeds, Saints, the Hull clubs & Wire (and to a lesser extent Wakey with John Kear) over the next five years to rescue this bloody game by nurturing talent through, cause sure as hell the likes of Salford, Huddersfield and Cas ain't going to do it!!
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| Quote: ABP' "Crackin' idea to have Sam's blog whilst in the England camp;
Sam always seems to talk a lot of sense.
This international will be fantastic for Sam. A chance to play at the highest level against the best players for New Zealand and Australia. As well as playing along side some of the best players in England. I believe him when he says it is inspiring playing alongside Adrian Morley and Jamie Peacock.
There is a good chance Sam will get his chance at some point in the Four Nations and you can bet your life he will grab it with both hands. Not many English players excel at international level due to the differing standards of the two competition but nevertheless being surrounded by the best players England has to offer, being up against the best players in the world should provide much more experience for Sam and develop his game further which is obviously a great benefit for Wigan next season. Big game experience is obviously something Sam lacks at the moment and so this tournament should be of great help for Sam.
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| I like him. He has a great turn of pace, good step and has a an eye for the gap.
He needs someone to keep his feet on the ground and not let him believe his own hype. We have seen it happen to good youngsters before.
Hopefully though he will continue improving and within a few years we will actually have someone who can play a good role in the halves against the Aussies.
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| Quote: MattyB "And thats why we will continue to be 3rd (at best) behind Aus & NZ.
After a decade of SL and the Salary Cap ,just look at that England Team and compare it to the GB Team of a decade ago.
This competition has been dumbing down for 10 years and only now are people realising it. Look at the 'Bored of SL?' threads popping up on the Saints site.
It's gonna take a mammoth task from the likes of Wigan, Leeds, Saints, the Hull clubs & Wire (and to a lesser extent Wakey with John Kear) over the next five years to rescue this bloody game by nurturing talent through, cause sure as hell the likes of Salford, Huddersfield and Cas ain't going to do it!!'"
Unfair on Cas imo when you consider they've brought through the likes of Shenton, Westwrman and Owen in the last couple of years who all look good long term bets for international caps.
Agree with the rest of the post mind. The game is being run by the teams that bring the least to the table which is mind boggling.
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| With the smaller teams they have really stepped their game up in my opinion. I like some of the Huddersfield youngsters coming through, they seem to be going well in the first team now, Salford are getting some good players coming through and Wakey and Quins have decent players now too. They're the teams that used to rely on other peoples youth rather than promoting their own.
The only 2 teams that haven't produced a player of note recently are Celtic and Catalans. Catalans don't have an academy so take the good young french lads from other teams and Celtic have a decent academy set up, but only just started really so they've not started to come through yet.
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| Quote: andyed-wiganrl "Next edition..................
[i''Well we all thought that coach was a stupid aussie pr1ck and his selections have just proved it. Picking his favourates, its like Brian Noble's back all over again. At least Tim Smith could throw a good pass though, this fella whos got my place for england cant even do that!!
An overrated unfit half back who only looks good because hes played for salford in preference to me?! Dunno whats going on fellas? Did he get the offer to play for England if he signed for wire?
That result at the weekend just proves it though, a 20-12 loss against the french is not what we were looking for to start the four nations. I only wish he would have given me the opportunity to change the game when we needed it.
Ahh well aussie next, lets hope he wakes up and smells the coffee. I can feel a 60 point thrashing on the cards here!!''[/i
Superb!!
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