| FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > edwards or tomkins |
 |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 1959 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2011 | Nov 2010 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Jukesays "Then you don't remember then! ![]()
He clearly can't mate, I remember well.
I don't want to compare the two in terms of ability, as I don't think there's a direct comparison yet - when Edwards was 20 he was surrounded by some fantastic players.
In terms of impact on the team in their first season, then I think Sam has had more, but then again he's 20 in his first season Shaun wasn't.
Not quite so straight forward at all. One thing I do think they have in common though is their desire to win, and their frustration when mistakes are made.
Shaun at the hight of his powers was without a doubt a better player than Sam currently is, Shaun in his first season? ...... lets see Sam develop and then we might be able to make a more fair comparison.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 8625 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
12633_1312317224.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12633.jpg |
|
| Quote: MattyB "wow
did he even play or had he been sent off again?'"
well he did`nt lose every one then did he.....or was`nt you watching your great team then |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 3268 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2021 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
3064.gif
saint mully wrote: It was disappointing to see the numbers leaving after the Lee Smith try when I was coming back in from the toilets, I could hardly get back in
scully = god wrote: We have the worst fans in the league. FACT. What we need is the passion Wigan fans have.:3064.gif |
|
| Quote: lothlorian "tomkins is in his first real season at wigan. And to be honest it hasn't been a full season and he only came into the side due to smiths injury. You cant compare'"
load of $hite, Sam had played and started more games than Tim Smith even before Smiths injury. Bilko's site proves it. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 8625 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
12633_1312317224.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12633.jpg |
|
| Quote: Jukesays "Even Blind Squirrells can find Nuts Now and again you know!
PS
Tell me again How Sean did in his 1st season? You seem to be the expert!'"
did`nt he play at wembley..may be full back..correct me if im wrong |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 1959 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2011 | Nov 2010 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Les Boyd Is God "did`nt he play at wembley..may be full back..correct me if im wrong'"
He played at Wembley when we lost against Widnes in the 1984 final, the one where Joe Lydon scored a bloody fantastic try for Widnes against us.
And it was at fullback because Steve Hampson was injured, something that would turn out to be a curse like re-occurrence for him. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 8625 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
12633_1312317224.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12633.jpg |
|
| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "He played at Wembley when we lost against Widnes in the 1984 final, the one where Joe Lydon scored a bloody fantastic try for Widnes against us.'"
just know he was a great player who was great at international level as well.....and played in many positions as well |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 7767 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg
Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
|
| Quote: Les Boyd Is God "did`nt he play at wembley..may be full back..correct me if im wrong'"
Yep!
After Hampson got injured pre Wembley!
Couldn't get a game in front of Mark Cannon/Gary Stephens at that point. 
And If I'm not mistaken that was a team out of it's depth that day just like your prediciting Wigan Will be out of theirs of they got to the GF!
Your Point is? |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 1959 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2011 | Nov 2010 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Les Boyd Is God "just know he was a great player who was great at international level as well.....and played in many positions as well'"
See my edit,
yes he was a fantastic player, captained England school boys in Union and League (from memory) and to be honest Sam's showing all the signs of becoming one as well. Obviously you can't compare the two directly till you've seen Sam develop throughout his career. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 7767 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg
Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
|
| Quote: Les Boyd Is God "just know he was a great player who was great at international level as well.....and played in many positions as well'"
He was, but not in his 1st season.
Anyway, I'm sure you lot were part of the "Edwards, Most Overated Player Ever!" Brigade!
Changed your tune when it suits. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 8625 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
12633_1312317224.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12633.jpg |
|
| Quote: Jukesays "Yep!
After Hampson got injured pre Wembley!
Couldn't get a game in front of Mark Cannon/Gary Stephens at that point. ![]()
edwards 1st season at wigan you`ve ask god knows how many times....you could see he was going to be a good un..may be tomkins will but he will never be in the same league as edwards.....happy now
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 8625 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
12633_1312317224.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12633.jpg |
|
| Quote: Jukesays "He was, but not in his 1st season.
Anyway, I'm sure you lot were part of the "Edwards, Most Overated Player Ever!" Brigade!
Changed your tune when it suits.'"
stop making things up...i liked edwards. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 1959 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2011 | Nov 2010 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Jukesays "Yep!
After Hampson got injured pre Wembley!
Couldn't get a game in front of Mark Cannon/Gary Stephens at that point. ![]()
Yeah Widnes far outclassed us that day, was great when Joe came home two seasons later. The Shaun that you're comparing to les, started to come into his own in the 86/87 season when we signed Andy Gregory, and Hanley was absolutely magical.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 7767 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg
Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
|
| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "Yeah Widnes far outclassed us that day, was great when Joe came home two seasons later. The Shaun that you're comparing to les, started to come into his own in the 86/87 season when we signed Andy Gregory, and Hanley was absolutely magical.'"
And I could have been a good un in that team! And I was only 16
Point is at the same age they were Bother VERY GOOD players!
Will Sam go on to be as good as Shaun?
Watch this space for the Next 10/12 years and we'll see! |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Moderator | 14395 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2024 | May 2022 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
26.jpg
Last league derby at Central Park 5/9/1999: Wigan 28 St. Helens 20
Last league derby at Knowsley Road 2/4/2010: St. Helens 10 Wigan 18:26.jpg |
Moderator
|
| Quote: ChrisA "And why the hell are people even comparing them when Tomkins is only 20?'"
Well that's the point isn't it. In fact what a pointless thread. 
Dave |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 57 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2009 | Dec 2009 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
42648.jpg
We can hold our heads up high around town. Not for us the ignomony of having once supported United, Liverpool or Everton and then shamelessly casting our previous loyalties aside for a 2 bit fly-be-night outfit with no history or standing in the town. Not for us having to swear blind that we never supported another club, not for us having to swear blind that we watched our club pre-JJB.
We are Wigan Rugby League. Established 1872. The town's true club. Ancient and Loyal.
king warrior wrote: I'd chop my **** off for a win on sat seriously:42648.jpg |
|
|
He is very similar to Edwards same attitude and passion but sam is his own man and lets compare in a few years and enjoy that we have a fantastic player on our hands. Edwards was brilliant maybe sam is the next brilliant player after Edwards time will tell!!! COME ON WIGAN!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
