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38 pages, for a player who many have said "isn't a centre", so why the fuss?

Hansen is by far our best 2nd rower.


In my opinion of course

I don't get why they didn't make every ticket in the house a tenner right up until kick off. Even if the game only broke even or even made a slight loss it would be short term pain for a long term gain.

I think we'd have been looking at 60,000 + (I actually think we could have got close to a full house with that and a bit of marketing) and we could make a statement and move forward. As it looks at the moment the £10 tickets went well but now that offer has gone sales seem to have slowed up (you can easily get plenty of tickets together in dearer areas) and I don't really see them picking up too much.

What would wigans motivation be to let joel leave with 4 years left on his contract?

Its not like we can spend lots of money if we let him anyway..

If we let him go it will show that the club will let any of our players go to RU if they offer us some money, it virtually guarentees sam will following him in 12 months later if not ewarlier and then probably another few

Where is our ambition exactly? I feel there is something IL is not revealing..

maybe Joel wants to play 2nd row for warriors....maybe he never wanted to play centre....maybe he heard IL at fans forum saying Joel would be a great centre after a winters training.....maybe joel thought "hang on..i could earn 5 times the money playing centre in union"

lot of maybes....but might add up to a could be

JT is a much better back rower than he is a centre.

Maybe RU see him as a "battering ram" type of player but maybe they want to train him as a back row forward?

Joel Tomkins - and any other RL player - look after themselves. Just like the club will look after itself. That's sport and it is probably more applicable to RL than any other sport because of how much a player earns. How many years do you get as a first grade RL player? If you reach ten years at the highest level that's considered a success. Not to mention that contracts tend to decline as a player gets older. And then what? Driving taxi's like Graeme West?

A successful club is a happy club. Warrington were quick to boot Martin Gleeson when his motivation was lacking. Hull KR have recently terminated their new signing Misi Taulapapa (who hasn't even played a game for the club yet) because he was unhappy with the coaches plans for 2012.



I don't think this is any more a problem for Wigan as it is the RFL and RL on a much wider scale. Clint Newton raised some serious points about the game in this country and for far too long players have been ignored.

What more could Wigan do? They've given Joel Tomkins a five year deal, openly spoke about ing our future around his brothers and the rest of his mates playing in the team. Union come in offering astronomical wages that Wigan are restricted to combat and the lad is just looking after himself. RL in this country can't offer what RU can. It's every much an issue for the game as it is for Wigan.



Ian Lenagan states our ambitions and intentions in an article in 'The Guardian'. We're looking into poaching Union players from an early age. I'm sceptical, but at least he's doing something rather than sitting back and accepting defeat.

Follwing rlTHISrl example would be a starting point for RL.

For god’s sake, it’s rumoured that JT is leaving to take up a financially better position elsewhere. Given the current state of the country/finances, anyone who chastises him is a moron.

How many of you would turn down more money (under a guaranteed contract) elsewhere at the moment? Im betting none

Sarries probably see him playing a similar role to Sonny Bill Williams...

Wing?

Given they tried to turn a RL prop into a centre, Joel to wing looks positively conservative.