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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"I can't comment on Offiah or Robinson because I only started watching in 2001, but I'd definitely have Richards ahead of all of the others you mention. So many strings to his bow with his strength, aerial ability, defensive capabilities and the kicking. The only downside I can think of for Richards was his agility - he isn't going to step someone and go the full length like Dallas or Carney might, but he beats those players in so many other areas of the game.
That's all assuming we're talking about the best winger to win games of course, if we are just talking about excitement then it's a different question. Making good metres and finding your front coming out of yardage, making the cross field kick a non-option for the opposition and never being steamrolled by the bigger wingers trying to crash in at the corner aren't eye catching, but Richards did them better than the guys you mention IMO.
Edit - just realised NickyKiss has made pretty much the same points. Promise I wasn't copying!'"
I think Dallas was better, an Aussie international and Origin player, speaks volumes |
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"I think Dallas was better, an Aussie international and Origin player, speaks volumes'"
It's all opinions and Dallas was undoubtedly a great winger, but that's a bit of an unfair way to compare them given that Richards was ineligible for origin/international selection for most of his career by playing in SL. Even when he went back to the NRL at 32 years old there were a lot of aussie pundits calling for him to be selected for origin. I don't think there can be any question that he would have been selected if he had been eligible for selection during his prime. |
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"It's all opinions and Dallas was undoubtedly a great winger, but that's a bit of an unfair way to compare them given that Richards was ineligible for origin/international selection for most of his career by playing in SL. Even when he went back to the NRL at 32 years old there were a lot of aussie pundits calling for him to be selected for origin. I don't think there can be any question that he would have been selected if he had been eligible for selection during his prime.'"
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"I get what your saying but Dallas played half of his career at Wigan also'"
Oh yeah if it was a question of who had the better NRL career then Dallas, but I'd take Richards on who had the better overall career and better Wigan career. If it was top trumps, Dallas would win on agility and speed, Richards would win on strength, aerial ability, finishing, defence and kicking. Don't get me wrong, I loved watching Dallas more for entertainment, but I'd be picking Richards in terms of who would do most to help me win a game. Watching Richards score five tries in a game was the only time I actually felt sorry for an opposition player at SL level. Dallas was good but he couldn't dominate a game like that. |
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Gary Connolly
Tuigamala
How the hell could I forget about those two?
Spoiled to the point of gluttony.
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| Quote Shabino="Shabino"Whino in peace. I've said before on the Leeds board that Sam is the best player I've seen (followed RL from early 90's).
Is that justified? Interested in the thoughts of those who've seen an awful lot of him, and know about his influence on the field....'"
I’ve never seen a player influence a team quite like Hanley, and he managed to stand out in a team full of stars, I feel so lucky to have witnessed those great Wigan teams from that period.
Tomkins was undoubtedly very good but you won’t find him commanding the same respect as Hanley still does both here and in Australia. |
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My Top 3 in my time of watching
1) Lockers
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Sam would just make the top ten.
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| Quote Lenners="Lenners"My Top 3 in my time of watching
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Sam would just make the top ten.'"
Lockers number 1?? Dont think hed make my top 10 |
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"Lockers number 1?? Dont think hed make my top 10'"
Fair enough it's your opinion and i respect that.
My response--
How many pots has Lockers lifted as Wigan Captain in the last decade, widely regarded in Aus by the ockers as one of the best players in the world at the peak of his career.
England and Great Britain Captain for numerous years.
History will reflect very well on Lockers time as a Wigan player, one the greatest of all time without doubt. |
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| Quote Lancastrian="Lancastrian"Impossible question for me considering I have been watching Wigan since 1953 !'"
Saw my first Wigan game back in 1947 and if I was forced to select the best my pick would be Ellery H. As I have said on here before the best Wigan team performance I have ever seen was in the CC final in 1959. That team included Boston, Bolton, Ashton, Sullivan, Griffiths and of course McTigue the MOM. |
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Agreed. I like Radlinski there because of his defensive capabilities. Tomkins wouldn't be capable of doing what Radlinski did in the 02 Challenge Cup Final for example, and there were times when he came unstuck under the high ball. Plus it's not like Radlinski was a poor attacker either, not as devastating as Tomkins but he was the League's top try scorer in 01. Tomkins is the better player but Radlinski is the better full back IMO, hence why I pick Tomkins in the halves in these debates.'"
For once you make sense young Grimmy
Radlinski all the way for me, I also factor in a players attitude and how he treated the club, As we all know Tomkins was a bit of an when alcohol was involved also He binned us off twice for the lure of filthy lucre |
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"1982 start for me too! How lucky as Wigan fans have we been?
We could list a top twenty, top thirty, possibly even a top forty and those players would still be absolute top class. I bet we could do thirty players without even having to think hard about it (and still miss obvious choices out).
Sod it, here goes:
Hanley
Gregory
Edwards
Gill
West
Lydon
Platt
Bell
Goodway
Kevin Iro
Kenny
Ferguson
Ella
Dowling
Betts
Clarke
Platt
Offiah
Miles
Renouf
Robinson
Henry Paul
Barrett
Radlinski
Dallas
Andy Farrell
Lockers
Sam Tomkins
Hoffman
Charnley
Liam Farrell
French
Hastings
Rattled those off without really having to think about it. I bet I've missed a few off too.
How spoiled we've been!!'"
Good players, but most of those not good enough to lace Tomkins boots imho..... |
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