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| Quote: 100% Warrior "What if your uncles your Dad?
This type of attitude holds back RL. We’ve (Super League) been doing the same thing under different banners for years. It’s got us nowhere. Toronto are doing it differently and look at the exposure RL is getting. If only we had more financial backers with vision and clout we’d be far better off as a sport.'"
I always wonder if the salary cap has put off more guys like Simon Moran, Koukash etc coming in. They’re guys with the finances to go around signing up big money players but if you can’t do it because of a salary cap what’s the point? Moran has shelled out for the two he’s allowed at Wire in Austin and Widdop but if he were allowed to sign more under the cap I’m sure he would.
The smaller clubs will always talk of an uneven comp, if big money backers come in to certain clubs but we’ve had a salary cap for years now and we’ve still only had the traditional big four clubs win the super league.
The marquee rule has helped but you do wonder what would happen if they went further. On the upside for the league the signings across the board for 2020 look exciting and it does feel like the tides turned a little bit when it comes to feeling like you’re watching a second rate product.
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| Toronto have given Super League unprecedented worldwide sporting exposure over the last few days. And now on Skysports and the BBC Leicester Tigers are plying down a cross code move for Manu Tuilagi.
In 2019 - where everyone is fighting for your attention - Toronto are doing amazing work for our sport. More power to them. Keep going and let them spend what they want.
To survive Toronto need exposure. For the game to survive we need exposure.
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| Quote: bazdev "Linked strongly to Latrell Mitchell, what a signing that would be. Might take our game in on Apr 25th as part of my birthday celebrations'"
Valentine Holmes (NFL) (that would be a shrewd move) and Manu Tuilagi are being mentioned now in the press.
Get SBW in and just imagine if they pulled off any of the above.
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2553.gif I've seen them bomb a quarter final, bottle a semi final, finish as league leaders, but I've still, never, seen the Wire win the league
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I always wonder if the salary cap has put off more guys like Simon Moran, Koukash etc coming in. They’re guys with the finances to go around signing up big money players but if you can’t do it because of a salary cap what’s the point? Moran has shelled out for the two he’s allowed at Wire in Austin and Widdop but if he were allowed to sign more under the cap I’m sure he would.
The smaller clubs will always talk of an uneven comp, if big money backers come in to certain clubs but we’ve had a salary cap for years now and we’ve still only had the traditional big four clubs win the super league.
The marquee rule has helped but you do wonder what would happen if they went further. On the upside for the league the signings across the board for 2020 look exciting and it does feel like the tides turned a little bit when it comes to feeling like you’re watching a second rate product.'"
I think for Toronto its slightly different. They spend the big money as they have the potential to tap into a market and subsequent revenue streams that could be astronomical. They're not spending money for the fun of it, but rather because they have a vision for what they can become. Speculate to accumulate is a decent strategy for them. For English sides though it would be a risk not worth taking to start throwing the big beans around.
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| Im sick to death of hearing people moaning about "oooohh we cant raise the salary cap, its not fair on clubs like Wakefield"
B0llocks to them! That's there problem, its never done Premier League football any harm. In order to have big sponsors, big TV deals and bigger attendances we NEED the biggest names playing over here. The only way to do that is to raise the cap or scrap it all together. We are being held back by the smaller clubs and it needs to stop if we want to grow the game. Fair play to Toronto, im made up with what they are doing and hopefully others follow suit.
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| Quote: warrior1872 "I cant believe that Brian Noble wants a review of the salary cap after what has happened to Bradford,now i know its because they have a rich backer but what happens if they get relegated or he pulls out they are screwed'"
Every single club in SL would be screwed if their owner pulled out.
its not just toronto
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| Quote: Steph Curry "Every single club in SL would be screwed if their owner pulled out.
its not just toronto'"
Who else would want to buy Toronto
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| Quote: 21-12 "Im sick to death of hearing people moaning about "oooohh we cant raise the salary cap, its not fair on clubs like Wakefield"
B0llocks to them! That's there problem, its never done Premier League football any harm. In order to have big sponsors, big TV deals and bigger attendances we NEED the biggest names playing over here. The only way to do that is to raise the cap or scrap it all together. We are being held back by the smaller clubs and it needs to stop if we want to grow the game. Fair play to Toronto, im made up with what they are doing and hopefully others follow suit.'"
This.
100% this.
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I Remember When Sydney died of Sodomy in Singapore,
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| Quote: Pie Eyed "This.
100% this.'"
Very Interesting evening so far
Superleague currently trending worldwide on Twitter And I'm actually agreeing with a Wigan Fan
With that In mind , Must be off the Nurse is coming with my medication.
Ps : It's tongue in cheek
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I always wonder if the salary cap has put off more guys like Simon Moran, Koukash etc coming in. They’re guys with the finances to go around signing up big money players but if you can’t do it because of a salary cap what’s the point? Moran has shelled out for the two he’s allowed at Wire in Austin and Widdop but if he were allowed to sign more under the cap I’m sure he would.
The smaller clubs will always talk of an uneven comp, if big money backers come in to certain clubs but we’ve had a salary cap for years now and we’ve still only had the traditional big four clubs win the super league.
The marquee rule has helped but you do wonder what would happen if they went further. On the upside for the league the signings across the board for 2020 look exciting and it does feel like the tides turned a little bit when it comes to feeling like you’re watching a second rate product.'"
Someone else has posted exactly what I’d say - b0ll0cks to the smaller clubs who can’t/won’t try to increase revenue. The longer the RFL and fans sit back and go “ohh but what about Batley/Rochdale/Wakefield [insert whoever you wish]” when we discuss the eradication of the salary cap, the longer the sport is held back. Standards have declined since dramatically in the past 10yrs as have the crowds. We’re in serious danger of becoming completely irrelevant and a forgotten about sport. It’s time we changed the tide and made the sport more appealing to major sponsors and investors.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "Someone else has posted exactly what I’d say - b0ll0cks to the smaller clubs who can’t/won’t try to increase revenue. The longer the RFL and fans sit back and go “ohh but what about Batley/Rochdale/Wakefield [insert whoever you wish]” when we discuss the eradication of the salary cap, the longer the sport is held back. Standards have declined since dramatically in the past 10yrs as have the crowds. We’re in serious danger of becoming completely irrelevant and a forgotten about sport. It’s time we changed the tide and made the sport more appealing to major sponsors and investors.'"
Good post; you're right. Change is most definitely needed; now we look to Toronto to lead the way.
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| By all means, that the game of the ground in Canada and the USA, but to have Toronto Wolfpack in our game is a big risk which could end up in a big embarrassment for the RFL, especially with them playing games in batches of home and away fixtures.
It is so easy to pull the plug!
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| Quote: Ruddy Duck "By all means, that the game of the ground in Canada and the USA, but to have Toronto Wolfpack in our game is a big risk which could end up in a big embarrassment for the RFL, especially with them playing games in batches of home and away fixtures.
It is so easy to pull the plug!'"
It is a gamble, no two ways about it but equally the rewards if (and I think the size of that if has decreased dramatically) it pays off. The sport is on its knees mate. This could drag it up standing again over time
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
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Say what you want about Toronto Wolfpack but their marketing team is first class (easily the best in Super League). All home games are themed to bring in more support from the local community.
Our game theme is family day and kids are free to enter.
Match tickets available from this Saturday.
https://www.torontowolfpack.com/2020-to ... eme-games/
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Say what you want about Toronto Wolfpack but their marketing team is first class (easily the best in Super League). All home games are themed to bring in more support from the local community.
Our game theme is family day and kids are free to enter.
Match tickets available from this Saturday.
https://www.torontowolfpack.com/2020-to ... eme-games/
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| Quote: MattyB "Say what you want about Toronto Wolfpack but their marketing team is first class (easily the best in Super League). All home games are themed to bring in more support from the local community.
Our game theme is family day and kids are free to enter.
Match tickets available from this Saturday.
What Toronto are doing is quietening down the flat cappers and should inspire other SL clubs to take a similar approach or develop better marketing. Toronto have the advantage of still being a relatively new sport in the city and country so intrigue will always be a huge winner on their part.
All I hope is that the AMNRL sides start to pick up some interest and develop further. I don’t mind Toronto in SL at all, I’m a huge backer of it but the long term goal must be to have a full time professional North American League so that clubs like Toronto, Ottawa, New York, Boston, Philadelphia and Jacksonville can properly grow the game over there and the game can grow as a whole with a new league and market for players and fans.
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