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| Quote Bigredwarrior="Bigredwarrior"I’m pleased the club is investing in the infrastructure to be honest, you can’t build a house on sand and hopefully we’ll have the foundation for success for years to come.
Just my opinion but I’d say the club had a recruitment and retention policy that was highly successful for 10 years. We brought home grown talent through to the first team whilst allowing top players to leave when the opted to do so. That, supported by players returning and project signings took us to great success with repeated finals and trophies in the cabinet. That meant that nobody can really argue that the policy wasn’t working.
The problem is that if you stretch an elastic band far enough, it will eventually snap. I’d say we’re at that snapping point and we desperately need to release the pressure and bring in some real quality, especially in the forwards.'"
I think that’s a fair assessment to be honest and one I’d agree with too
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| Quote Bigredwarrior="Bigredwarrior"I’m pleased the club is investing in the infrastructure to be honest, you can’t build a house on sand and hopefully we’ll have the foundation for success for years to come.
Just my opinion but I’d say the club had a recruitment and retention policy that was highly successful for 10 years. We brought home grown talent through to the first team whilst allowing top players to leave when the opted to do so. That, supported by players returning and project signings took us to great success with repeated finals and trophies in the cabinet. That meant that nobody can really argue that the policy wasn’t working.
The problem is that if you stretch an elastic band far enough, it will eventually snap. I’d say we’re at that snapping point and we desperately need to release the pressure and bring in some real quality, especially in the forwards.'"
Much easier to identify and buy 1 or 2 players every couple of years when needed than it is to have to go out and buy 6/7/8 every year which only stay for 12/18 months and then do the same thing because you haven't got the infrastructure or youth system.
I wrote end of last year and early this that for the first time in 10+ years we had the balance/quality wrong and too many had been retained, but I'd rather it be this way than the other.
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someone posted a week or so ago about Powell that "Back in the day" Wigan wouldn't have accepted his level and gone out and bought someone to replace them.
Said this was what Wigan would have done a decade or so ago, a thinly veiled dig at leneghan.
I guess they must have forgotten signing Wayne Godwin, Shane Millard etc.
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| The game is at total sham. I stopped going to games around 2011 is mainly because the players are just basic average. There used to be top players like A Farrell, Connolly and Robinson and they got replaced with players like Gelling, Hankinson and Navarette! Every team is capable of beating eachover. I think the salary cap has finally killed off was once a good competition.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"My understanding was that we bought Robin Park.'"
Thanks. If we own the freehold and the land etc. Then fair enough I’ve no issues with having an asset on the books but I’ve only found that we’ll take over the lease which will save the council about £215k a year. If we don’t own it, to what purpose can IL sell us on if we don’t have anything to actually sell on as an arm of the council seem to be taking over the running of Central Park?
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| Quote DannyT="DannyT"Thanks. If we own the freehold and the land etc. Then fair enough I’ve no issues with having an asset on the books but I’ve only found that we’ll take over the lease which will save the council about £215k a year. If we don’t own it, to what purpose can IL sell us on if we don’t have anything to actually sell on as an arm of the council seem to be taking over the running of Central Park?'"
I was under the impression it was rented. So that would mean we would have:
DW - Rent
Robin Park Arena - Rent
Town Centre Shop - Rent
Whereas last year we had:
Orrell - owned
Hilton Street properties - owned
Central Park School - Rent, moved.
As far as I can see.... no assets, other than the playing squad (contractors).
Happy to be proven wrong about Robin Park (hope I am).
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| your right pal, was saying to my dad last night as the game how much saints have got it right, great stadium, great service were pinging notes into the till left right and centre all going into their pockets, their academy play there also. We are missing a trick so so much with the renting of a stadium and is costing the club a fortune in lost revenue.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"I was under the impression it was rented. So that would mean we would have:
DW - Rent
Robin Park Arena - Rent
Town Centre Shop - Rent
Whereas last year we had:
Orrell - owned
Hilton Street properties - owned
Central Park School - Rent, moved.
As far as I can see.... no assets, other than the playing squad (contractors).
Happy to be proven wrong about Robin Park (hope I am).'"
Don't we still have Orrell? I didn't think it had been sold yet. Either way, it's great to have assets but what use is the land to the club if it's no longer fit for the purpose it was designed for? If the club wants to invest in other areas surely it's better to sell it rather than keep hold for the sake of having an asset.
Renting the DW saves us money in terms of maintenance. The big issue is not making money from hospitality and events. If the club can make up for that loss (which presumably is what they are hoping for with Robin Park) then it's removing that negative.
I'm not sure how our deal for Robin Park is going to work but if it means the club is going to take over the running of Robin Park and therefore make money from events held there then that should hopefully give us another source of income and make up for what we lose by renting the ground.
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"your right pal, was saying to my dad last night as the game how much saints have got it right, great stadium, great service were pinging notes into the till left right and centre all going into their pockets, their academy play there also. We are missing a trick so so much with the renting of a stadium and is costing the club a fortune in lost revenue.'"
It always makes me laugh when you get the “you don’t need to own a stadium” brigade banging out nonsense,if nothing else a stadium is a huge asset,one that as you say contributes to the coffers of a club,as you say you could have the ladies playing,the kids all there playing under the one roof.
As it stands all Wigan own is gym equipment and a few tackle bags
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"your right pal, was saying to my dad last night as the game how much saints have got it right, great stadium, great service were pinging notes into the till left right and centre all going into their pockets, their academy play there also. We are missing a trick so so much with the renting of a stadium and is costing the club a fortune in lost revenue.'"
I think the rent is a small amount as we don't see a penny from the food or alcohol stalls
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| Quote hengirl="hengirl"It always makes me laugh when you get the “you don’t need to own a stadium” brigade banging out nonsense,if nothing else a stadium is a huge asset,one that as you say contributes to the coffers of a club,as you say you could have the ladies playing,the kids all there playing under the one roof.
As it stands all Wigan own is gym equipment and a few tackle bags'"
Chance's are they are on HP.
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Quote hengirl="hengirl"It always makes me laugh when you get the “you don’t need to own a stadium” brigade banging out nonsense,if nothing else a stadium is a huge asset,one that as you say contributes to the coffers of a club,as you say you could have the ladies playing,the kids all there playing under the one roof.
As it stands all Wigan own is gym equipment and a few tackle bags'"
Since Saints moved into their new stadium they have lost £7,996 million. In the same period Wigan lost £1,613 million.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history
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Quote hengirl="hengirl"It always makes me laugh when you get the “you don’t need to own a stadium” brigade banging out nonsense,if nothing else a stadium is a huge asset,one that as you say contributes to the coffers of a club,as you say you could have the ladies playing,the kids all there playing under the one roof.
As it stands all Wigan own is gym equipment and a few tackle bags'"
Since Saints moved into their new stadium they have lost £7,996 million. In the same period Wigan lost £1,613 million.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history
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Difference is if they were to have financial difficulties then they have assets to rescue them.....we don't.
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Difference is if they were to have financial difficulties then they have assets to rescue them.....we don't.
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