I think you need a balence between both. If you look at it most of the young players are not on cap... it's also not helped much having players to put in who are not upto SL level, our results show that. The only good thing is it gives them expierence. We have had shocking runs with injuries this year, along with changes and the stuff off field it is the worse we have had in SL era for me.

I wouldn't imagine that the fringe players who have featured this year have too much bearing on the cap. Assuming the under 19's qualified players who aren't on first team contracts aren't earning enough to be counted we're only looking at the likes of Partington, Paisley and Byrne as having their salary counted. Maybe the club is leaving a significant amount of room left over to allow fringe players to play, but I'd say we're looking at around a 30 man squad, with the rest not counting because they won't play. The players who are loaned out will presumably stay loaned out.

If that's the case, the overwhelming majority of the cap will still be tied up in the top 25 squad players like most other clubs. The 15 or so players with squad numbers outside of that shouldn't be hampering our spending power too much.

Discipline and attitude in defence awful again. Some of these players are really letting the club down.

Overall it was a gutsy effort I thought. There’s some real issues with our defence around the middle and our go forward in that area but the players did just enough. Our discipline (well Isa and Tautai’s discipline) is another area needing urgent attention.

We’re absolutely desperate for another prop forward from somewhere.

It's a good job we were playing a team with even worse discipline than us, otherwise that would have been another game down the pan.

I thought we did really well considering the battering we took Friday . I thought Salford would dominate the last 20 mins as we tired but we dug in and showed some guts and spirit.

Discipline or lack there of is absolutely killing us.
What should have been a straightforward win turned into a get out of jail win thanks to a miracle play.
Thank god for the two points though.

If only Williams realised he could pass to his right. We telegraphed the moves to Gildart & Greenwood too much IMO.

Good game that could have gone either way,the lack of discipline is at times shocking and against better teams will finish Wigan off,still after Friday a win is a win

Yeah, it's Williams fault.

Astonishing today after Williams first 25mins where he created a try ,created an opportunity that burgess should have scored, nearly scored twice himself, got 3 repeat sets, made a dozen tackles and was basically outstanding - he then kicks to corner on 2nd tackle and Burgess doesn't get to it and the wall of deafining criticism from the experts was astonishing!

He put one average bomb up in 2nd half (shorrocks put 2 terrible ones in) and they're at it again, despite him putting Greenwood in for 2 tries, made another dozen Tackles, takes a quick restart after Salford fail to score over line where he's involved in the tackle amd makes 15yards, and chased his own bomb and recollects and offloaded for hardaker try.

Said on way back, I'm going to cherish his last 20 or so games for Wigan, because I'm not sure where were going to find a player who does What He does for Wigan over and over again.

Absolutely bang on mate, some of the criticism he gets sickens me, he’s our most creative player buy a mile and has been good this season, year after year he tops the try scoring charts and often gets into double figures for tries, those “experts” will soon realise next year when we have Woods and Shorrocks in the halves

We’d be knackered (and soon will be) without Williams. I said after the game today that him along with that left edge in general will steer us clear of any trouble. Don’t get me wrong Williams can be frustrating but only because he’s a fantastic talent who sometimes could produce even more then he does.