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Quote: Cherry.Pie "I do think he's carrying an injury. The problem is he's been poor for a while. Lots of players play with knocks and still manage to play to a reasonable standard. A hamstring tweak doesn't mean he should be putting in poor passes from two feet away. Maybe it's affecting his kicking though, which is usually much better and one of his redeeming qualities.
If the injury is so bad that it's affecting his game to such an extent that he can't kick or pass then he shouldn't be playing, and considering he's been taking the ball into contact more in the last 2 or 3 weeks suggests he's doing fine running on it. He's passed up the goal kicking duties yet he's still taking drop outs and kicking to touch. Powell could easily take over those if the injury was that bad.

While he might be carrying a knock that's causing him problems I still think it's fair to expect more from him. At the moment he looks like a player who just can't cope without a partner in the halves who can do the actual playmaking and take the pressure off. Green was the real star for us in that partnership even though Smith got most of the praise, just like Daniel Holdsworth was the star at Salford when Smith got the praise from 2010-2012.'"


Green was class, but your being harsh on Smith there. When Green tore his bicep against Leeds at the Magic Weekend in 2014, and was out for 3(?) months, Smith was excellent in his absence. He's struggling for top form but I think any half would be given the state of our team at the minute.

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Im no fan of Smith, but on Friday he had his work cut out. Once SOL went off, there wasn't really any way back as the damage had already been done. We had to do so much shuffling of players that there was only ever going to be one result. We're missing Williams badly.

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A lot of love in here for George Williams. I hope when he comes back and misses a tackle, or puts a pass to ground, you don't all get on his back too.

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Speaking of half back options including Sarginson, from what I've heard he's nowhere near 100% either. A mate of his decided to come up for the game and Sarge told him he wasn't playing. He only confirmed that he actually was playing at 6.45 on game night. Of course, it might have been a minor thing and he could recover for next week...

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



Quote: Smooth Stu "A lot of love in here for George Williams. I hope when he comes back and misses a tackle, or puts a pass to ground, you don't all get on his back too.'"


Although I'm not condoning either slating Smith or defending Williams the difference is Smith is a seasoned player, he just needs to sharpen up a bit.

Williams was carrying an injury before he was ruled out and gave some bad balls.

For me we need an Andrew Dunneman/Shane Millard type player to sign for us for the rest of the season to either fill in in the halts or push Powell to the halves and play at 9, if anyone has watched the NRL a lot recently I believe Isaac De Gois is out of favour at Parra? I know he was half decent 5 or 6 years ago is he any good or does anyone know of an alternative?

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Watched de Gois last night in a cracking contest between the Eels and the Panthers. He did OK.

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



Quote: moto748 "Watched de Gois last night in a cracking contest between the Eels and the Panthers. He did OK.'"



Do you think he would do a job for us for the rest of the season?

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Sure, but whether Parra would want to release him...

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Did I dream it or did I read that Matty has a tight hamstring, which is why Josh has been kicking goals? We miss Micky McIlorum who took some of the pressure off. Sam Powell does his best but he's still learning his trade at hooker.

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Another masterclass of shocking final play options, terrible attacking kicks and game management.

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I thought Smith played well tonight. He was far busier and involved himself far more. He easily outplayed Luke Gale who I thought had an absolute shocker (especially his kicking).

I heard some people bag Mossop after his first spell which was off the mark also because I thought he was our best forward early doors.

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Put some pretty good grubbers in tonight. Was decent in a tough game.

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Can't agree on Smith. His passing accuracy is shocking with runners having to either reach behind or check their runs to take a pass. He put a couple of decent kicks in and even if he was slightly better this week, overall he's not good enough, consistently enough.

I thought Mossop went ok but I think Crosby deserves a mention. After 6 months out that was a cracking 1st game back. Bateman is just a freak! Love watching him play.

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A lot of the service to Smith tonight was shocking, hard to do much with the ball when you've got to reach below your ankles for it.

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To be fair to Smith, according to the radio commentary he received a lot of pretty terrible passes, which doesn't help when you're trying to put your team on the front foot. And he did kick the goals! icon_smile.gif

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