I'm not looking at any further statistic because I don't have time to - as much as I'd like to compile a full model on the matter, life gets in the way. It's not any statistic, I've given my reason why I used the statistic I did and you yourself said it was a fair point.

You can ask "but whose perception is it" all you like - but it's clearly a common held belief amongst fans outside of your club. I think Wigan play closer to the line than other clubs, the stats I provided backed that up. I've not accused Wigan of being dirty or anything else, but I can understand how people interpret the citings as such (that doesn't mean they're right).

If wigan as a club don't want to be accused of "thugby" they need to step in line with the number of citings (the number of times they get close to stepping over the line) with other clubs - whatever that takes.

Reason your not looking any further is as i said it does not support your agenda and you fully well know that.

Otherwise you would have posted banned players and not citings.

Sorry, but that is complete nonsense.

You cannot use the most spurious of all the available statistics to prove a point that is unprovable.

Which club do you follow? Have you done any meaningful research on your own club versus others before jumping onto your high horse and coming to meaningless conclusions?

But, Jack's statistics refute your belief and Jack's hold more water.

Exactly.

Well i am bored to death today. Come from work so i had a look on the RFL site and put in dates for 1 year from the date of this season Grand Final. Adn the reuslts in which team had the most players called up before the Comittee.

MAESTRO PLEASE

St Helens got 7 players
Wigan got 7

Thats why he did not do the search as he knew the answer and he calls us dirty.

Well both are just as bad as each other.

Could it not be possible

(now this might be beyond the comprehension of some folks)

That maybe.....

Just maybe.....

EVERY team in the WHOLE of Rugby League, could have a couple of players that like to partake in the biff?

If this was the case, could it not also be possible, that EVERY SINGLE BL00DY team in SL could be perceived to have played beyond the laws of the game at one point or another?

Is that such a far fetched possibility?

Ahem



So conclusion, teams cross the line as often as each other, but Wigan are closer to it more regularly which is why other clubs fans accuse you of thugby ... Sounds suspiciously like the conclusion I put in my first post on here...

More like you used a set of figures to prove a point and deliberately did not use the others as be honest you knew the players banned of both clubs. As that's an easier count than citings.

But again that figure never suited you so you used citings to point something out. I look at all the figures and not the ones suited to what i am trying to prove and then come up with an argument to justify those set of figures.

Except I didn't look - but if that makes you feel better fine

I don't care what people's perception of wigan is particularly. One way or another - I chose a set of statistics for the purpose originally asked for - and no more

Sorry, but that doesn't add up either.

What if, as I understand is the case, the citing committee is not made up of the same members each week? One member of the panel, on any particular week, may take a more robust view on, for instance, dangerous throws, whereas the week after, all the members of the panel make not give a crap about that. For it to be consistent, and therefore statistically relevant, the element of perception must be taken out of the equation, and as you have proven with your own perceptions, it cannot be.

To say that Wigan play closer to the edge of the laws than anyone else, because a panel made up of different people each week says so, is just daft.

Except his stats are wrong, which everyone seems to be ignoring

You have to laugh at all these bandwagoners. So confident that Wigan are the dirtiest team in SL that they spit their dummy whenever their own teams' infractions are mentioned.

They're all available on this thread already but who knows who's right. I'm guessing it's not Jack though.......