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Hudds were the much better team and their forwards were constantly breaking tackles all over he field, thoroughly deserved their win. However, the officiating in SL is dreadful. The non knock-on called by hicks leads to a try and then Ferres tackled Bateman off the ball and nothing is given, Hudds then go up the other end and score to more or less seal the game. I don't mind getting beaten by Hudds because they are a very good team, but the officials on Thursday got some basic calls wrong that changed the game.

In addition to this, it seems to me that during the last few years Wigan have a habit of turning in below-par performances before big games. Away at saints last year before the cup semi, Leeds in the last round before play offs last year and now this. From what Waney has said in interviews we have been targeting Cas for a few weeks now, let's hope we turn in a good performance.

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Everyone keeps going on about ferres tackling Bateman- wigan made a break at that point due to ferres falling for the dummy pass and tackling the player he thought had received the ball! From where I was sat I thought he'd received the ball until I noticed Wigan were still moving ahead. The officials got basic calls wrong for BOTH sides. Those led to tries on both sides. Those calls did not affect the overall outcome of the game.

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Quote: meast "is this for real? seriously?
he made some poor calls for both sides but is he really the reason wigan's wonderkids were beaten?
apart from the knock on he gave against burgess i don't recall anything else to believe he cost wigan the game or am i just being stupid?
no mention of a forward pass for wigan's first try or the numerous times he let wigan players not stand square or offside, or the times he was conned into giving wigan penalties by their players falling over at the PTB.

i didn't think he was that bad at all just the usual frustrations, but i suppose wigan fans would think a referee cost them the game because they couldn't use their usual tactics against us?

the turning point was the introduction of crabtree, patrick and ta'ai who completely dominate wigan's forwards from that moment.'"


Usual tactics ?

Please enlighten me as you have a good recent record against Wigan so obviously these "usual tactics" whatever they are obviously don't work"...........we'll not unless it's a big game anyway icon_biggrin.gif

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What was particularly annoying was watching Mr Thaler sneakily looking at the screen when it suited him. Very similar situations were being treated differently because of this. The Bateman off the ball tackle was spotted by everyone except the officials but Mr Thaler did not want to know. That leaves the fans very confused.

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I cannot, for the life of me, understand the Huddersfield argument that Mr Thaler was fine because he was rubbish for both teams. He was a major factor in the outcome of the game. In that case perhaps we should toss a coin to see who wins. Mr T could be the .

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Not sure what happened to my last post. I suggested that Mr Thaler could become the"ofthecoin" and what came out on screen was"nice person".
Only one of these statements was correct in my view.

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Are people arguing on here that referees can’t decide the outcome of a game? Really?? Please enlighten me...

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in wigan's tactics im referrring to the rough stuff they play, leeds got drawn into it at magic, we didn't, our defence for the most part didn't get sucked into falling for wigan's dummy run tactics which works well for them.

as for the ferres-bateman tackle, then i really don't see the issue there, bateman was ferres' man and he comitted himself to him presuming he was going to receive a crash ball, you see those in every game, bateman will probably do the same next week, are you really suggesting that changed the outcome of the game?
like i said the only decision i thought was harsh was the burgess knock on, and to be fair it was only after seeing the replay on the big screen that it was apparent what had happened.
i can't figure out what the other 2 decisions went against wigan that changed the game in our favour.

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Quote: Levrier "What was particularly annoying was watching Mr Thaler sneakily looking at the screen when it suited him. Very similar situations were being treated differently because of this. The Bateman off the ball tackle was spotted by everyone except the officials but Mr Thaler did not want to know. That leaves the fans very confused.'"


One thing I can't get my head round is that some incidents seem to get overturned by the video ref in the stand like the Brough kick out on the full yet the Ferres pass on to himself adjudged as a Wigan knock on wasn't! Why? They're both easy to see.

The inconsistency in many aspects of officiating at present is woeful.

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They are on the take.

It has to be the only reasonable explanation for how biased and one side they are. No one can be that unintentionally bad

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Quote: sergeant pepper "They are on the take.

It has to be the only reasonable explanation for how biased and one side they are. No one can be that unintentionally bad'"



Give over! Haha!

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Quote: MattyB "Give over! Haha!'"


It might have been a little tongue in cheek but it does baffle me how bad they are.

Surly they can't be that naturally incompetent right?

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Quote: sergeant pepper "They are on the take.

It has to be the only reasonable explanation for how biased and one side they are. No one can be that unintentionally bad'"

i look forward to you pasting this again when wigan are the beneficiaries of refereeing mistakes!

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Quote: meast "i look forward to you pasting this again when wigan are the beneficiaries of refereeing mistakes!'"


Ha ha where have i said that it's anything to do with the just the decisions that went against Wigan? By popular consensus the ref was poor for BOTH sides making numerous bad calls.

I simply asked if their level of incompetence is natural or is there something more sinister behind it? After all it's becoming a bit of a common theme that's happening across the league.

Just because we benefited from it against Leeds and then didn't vs Hudds doesn't somehow make it right does it?

Now i ask the question again - can they be that naturally incompetent week in and week out regardless of which teams are playing? If you answer yes thinking it's just simply that and nothing more sinister then the next logical question should be - why are they still in a job?

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Quote: sergeant pepper "
I simply asked if their level of incompetence is natural or is there something more sinister behind it? After all it's becoming a bit of a common theme that's happening across the league.

Just because we benefited from it against Leeds and then didn't vs Hudds doesn't somehow make it right does it?
'"


I do hope you were on here after the Leeds game moaning about the ref too. Otherwise you'd be a bit of a hypocrite wouldn't you?

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