And I for one is happy about that!

Of Course he is happy He is a Wigan fan.

Do you believe that the reason that massive packs are on the way out is due to SL games largely now been played on harder grounds which inturn leads to a quicker game. Prop like Flower is ideal now.

So am I (the good times are well and truly back at Wigan these days

) and my post did relate to the topic we are discussing.

The question posed by the OP was "Adding James Roby to them, does it make it a pack to be feared by a young inexperienced Wigan pack ?."

You then accused Wigan fans of clutching at straws.

I said we didn't need to, had a young and improving side, had recruited well and would do our talking on the pitch, letting others make a noise in the press.

Agreed re the young players, Bowen/Hampshire and our props. Taylor is a good player already and could go on to world class IMO. He has massive potential (as do a number of others).

Learn to read properly. I said people were clutching at straws in order to have a pop at Saints. That has nothing to do with the Wigan squad.

Do you not think the fact that Warrington finished the game with 15 fit players had anything to do with what you're saying? Or did you forget/ignore that bit?

Giraffe everyone is entitled to their opinion, I have seen it a few times on here when someone puts up an alternative view you don't half get shirty.

All I am saying is he is a big lad that clearly needs to work hard to maintain his playing weight. He also requires surgery on his ankle already which will put him out for the most important part of the year in terms if preparation, hardly a great start.

As for Lafranchi and LMS they will have to improve significantly for me. Very very average. Amour is a decent player but he is not a top class SL Prop and never will be. He will take it up and he wil tackle. He will not make big yards or punishing drives/tackles. If you can get Walmsley up to more minutes, in my opinion that wil be a much needed boost as he could be your bolter.

Actually we only had 14 fit players. Lee was injured and if it were not such a massive game & we had already lost 2 key players then he would have been subbed.

Is that clutching at straws to have a pop at Wigan?

I think you are doing Amor a disservice there mate. He is better than what you make him out to be.

Interestingly, you say he doesn't make big yards but his average yard gain last season was higher than all of the Wigan props. What do you think of that?

I agree on Laffranchi, he has been disappointing. LMS is very hit and miss, goes from excellent one week to frustratingly poor the next.

Haha no. It's me responding to somebody who was making out that their young mobile pack completely dominated Warrington.