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| Quote king warrior="king warrior"Pat is missing a decent Centre thats all he's getting no room to work with and this comment you made shows you know nothing about rugby'"
Good wingers make room they look for the ball. Can't keep blaming the centres, this is week in week out
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| What a difference a day makes (there’s a good title for song there) I can’t believe the one’s who are skipping for joy today, are the same ones who only yesterday were going to hang themselves, and Mr Brown with that same bit of rope. Let’s see how long your jubilee lasts? The bitter disappointment of last night will not spoil my day as I drive down to Wembley on the 24th of august, but some other team may spoil my drive back, but for sure it won’t be saints!
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| It was an underuse of our so called "one set move" that was our main problem in attack last night. When we did actually ship it out and Hampshire was able to chime in to the attacking line we looked dangerous, i.e Charnley's 2nd try. These instances were few and far between though. When we did have field position we seemed insistent on just letting the props plod it forward. Players like Green, Smith an McIlorum are still way off the pace after injury and we need these back to early season form if we are going to contest for trophies.
Main overall problem from last night though, our god awful discipline and inability to keep hold of the ball. We managed to get in to a lead and then consistently piggy-backed them up the field with stupid penalties.
I can't get rid of the niggle that we are doing exactly what we did last season, awesome mid-season form then the wheels coming off when it really matters. I hope I am wrong, though.
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| Quote WARRIORCRAIG="WARRIORCRAIG"It was an underuse of our so called "one set move" that was our main problem in attack last night. When we did actually ship it out and Hampshire was able to chime in to the attacking line we looked dangerous, i.e Charnley's 2nd try. These instances were few and far between though. When we did have field position we seemed insistent on just letting the props plod it forward. Players like Green, Smith an McIlorum are still way off the pace after injury and we need these back to early season form if we are going to contest for trophies.
Main overall problem from last night though, our god awful discipline and inability to keep hold of the ball. We managed to get in to a lead and then consistently piggy-backed them up the field with stupid penalties.
I can't get rid of the niggle that we are doing exactly what we did last season, awesome mid-season form then the wheels coming off when it really matters. I hope I am wrong, though.'"
Smith halted this move almost everytime last night. Hes shown hes got some class (warrington away) but his decision making is so annoyingly inconsistent.
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| Quote the wrestler="the wrestler"Smith halted this move almost everytime last night. Hes shown hes got some class (warrington away) but his decision making is so annoyingly inconsistent.'"
He obviously lacked faith in whoever was outside him (Hampshire, Tuson).
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"We were down to 12 from the 67 min mark to the 77 min... Were you not watching the game!!!'"
Well exactly, why did we need to be a man down in the last 20? A string of daft penalties at a point when we needed to control the game. Poor finish.
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| Poor ball control in the first twenty minutes and poor discipline in the last twenty cost us the game.
Where was Pat on that kick return from Makinson that won Saints the game? Had he moved to fullback when Green was sin binned?
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| Pat should have kicked to the right hand side, where the left hand side was venerable because of Green being sin binned left Gelling on his own.
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| Pat didn't kick. Smith did.
I presumed Pat had moved inside for a drop goal attempt but he waved it away and Smith put in a shocker. The chase was woeful/non existant and we were punished.
We need to sort our discipline out though. Yes the shoulder charge rule is a joke but surely we should have realised Child was all over it.
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| My main gripe is with the forwards. An error-ridden, ill-disciplined display was summed up by Dudson, which is unusual for him, losing the plot on a few occassions. The forwards were more interested in niggling than doing the hard yards. I do have a feeling it is to do with complacency with us mullering them in the forwards the last few times. In addition, Wane's comments of "the points can be picked up later in the season" gave the impression he was willing to lose this one, which I can understand with saturday coming up.
Also, Matty Smith needs to get back to form very quickly. His pass selection last night was shocking and he did not trust Hampshire at all, the attack continually broke down with him.
All will be probably forgotten on saturday if we win which is most likely, however if we play like that London will push us.
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| You can throw what you want at it, but the fact of the matter is our coach has great difficulty getting our team winning and playing well without Sam Tomkins, it's a fact.
It's very worrying to think Wane has such massive issues minus Sam. Yes Lockers was missing, but there's been times he's played when Sam didn't when we lost.
Blame the pack, whatever, but the one man who we really miss is Sam Tomkins, the record speaks for itself.
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| Yes we miss Sam but he played at Wire and we lost there without Lockers.
That midfield trio of 6,7 & 13 are all over the place.
Green isn't on form and some distance away but he has played alongside Tuson, Burke, Farrel and Lockers in the 13 shirt since he returned from injury.
Smith at times seems to be trying to hard doing everything, playmaking, taking on the line, field kicking. The whole lot needs sorting out.
Overall, what we need most is a settled team.
There are six SL games left,
At most two Cup games,
Then 3-4 play off games.
That's a maximum of 12 games provided to make the two finals.
To gain enough form to win those we need a settled spine of 1,6,7,9 & 13.
Get them playing even if one isn't 100% fit and we can match anyone.
Play without 2-3 of them and we really struggle.
End this rotation or resting players, they now have to play the season out, injuries permitting, to regain the form which could win us trophies.
One question I asked of those stood around me behind the sticks at Saints was "If this had been a Cup Tie do you think Sam, Lockers and HH would have played"?
Those asked all said yes, which prompted my question in the first place.
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