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| Whilst not a Wigan fan im glad Tommy will get a run out in what is maybe his best position before he leaves,hes a guy i have a lot of respect for,i tough little fella who plays well above his weight.
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| The biggest question now will probably be whether it's Smith or Leuluai at hooker, or a little bit of both. Wane might go with Smith at hooker but his defence hasn't been great (although it has been reasonably good) and it's McIlorum's defence that is going to take some replacing. Before his injury Leuluai was the only player who could match Leuluai's ability to make crucial cover tackles, although he was doing that from scrum half.
Smith's kicking game is better and he's likely to be better kicking in open field rather than from dummy half.
However since Leuluai has returned to the scrum half role he's been putting some good passes in down the right hand side.
I think alternating Smith and Leuluai at hooker would be the right way to go.
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| Quote zntyres="zntyres"Nice to hear the deafening silence from saints fans over Perry's elbow ( normal form) whilst the Wigginers continue their moral crusade to ensure any wiggin player gets his true desserts (normal form) You make me FFin sick!!
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Always thought it was funny how anyone could hear a deafening silence never mind being deafened by it. A stitch in time saves nine, nine what and how do you sew time? I don’t know what his true dessert will be, maybe spotted dick and custard? His just desert will be at least 2, but more likely 3; I just hope he learns by it.
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| no one is really defending him as he has been playing this way for some time now - back to the old, uncontrolled aggression of previous seasons from him. he should be donating £ to JJ for every penalty he concedes - 3 in 20 mins at hkr was it?
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| MM has given the impression that he is bullet proof over the last few weeks and his performance levels have dropped over the period of Wee Tam's absence . Comments made by SW about how Logan Tomkins is a good player but is no Mickey Mac have not helped keep MM on his toes at this time . What ever he gets this week from the RFL he deserves in my opinion .
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| He deserves what he gets, iv been a fan of MM all season but what he did was uncalled for, i think perry should also get the same treatment. Rugby league is a physical game and big hits and hard tackling make for entertaining viewing but running out of the line and blatantly smashing someone and giving a cowardly elbow to the face when the opponent is on the floor should be no part of the game.
Also, i think that smith/leuluai at hooker would give us a new attacking edge and could alter what some feel is our predictable attack
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| MM should get at least 2 games - and 3 wouldn't be considered too harsh.
I do think Perry's forearm into Lima's head should have warranted a ban as well - another unprovoked, premeditated attack on the head of a defenceless player - really can't see why the disciplinary didn't pick it up - I can guarantee if it was Gareth Hock he would have been in a whole heap of sh*t.
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| Quote Big Steve="Big Steve"MM should get at least 2 games - and 3 wouldn't be considered too harsh.
I do think Perry's forearm into Lima's head should have warranted a ban as well - another unprovoked, premeditated attack on the head of a defenceless player - really can't see why the disciplinary didn't pick it up - I can guarantee if it was Gareth Hock he would have been in a whole heap of sh*t.'"
If it was Hock he would have done it properly 
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| Quote goobervision="goobervision"I don't understand how Perry isn't getting the same, described as being "nasty" by Eddie. Attack to the head of a player on the floor, clearly seen and captured by TV...'"
I for one am surprised that he hasn't been given any thing for the forearm/elbow to the head of a floored opponent. However this is from the RFL disciplinary site
"Player drops down onto opponent however does not promote forearm, hand is open and first point of contact is onto opponent’s arm"
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| Quote St_Cunningham_no9="St_Cunningham_no9"I for one am surprised that he hasn't been given any thing for the forearm/elbow to the head of a floored opponent. However this is from the RFL disciplinary site
"Player drops down onto opponent however does not promote forearm, hand is open and first point of contact is onto opponent’s arm"'"
That's a very strange description of what happened.
He clearly drops on him with his forearm, whether he 'promotes it' doesn't really matter as his who;e body weight is behind it.
The hand being open doesn't really matter - it's not like a swinging arm whilst he's standing up - it's the 18 stone that's behind it and the fact that Lima's head is on the floor with nowhere else to go.
It does seem that there is an agenda to make sure some incidents are treated severely and some not so.
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| People say that there is more chance of an incident being brought before a disciplinary panel compared to the same incident in a non televised game. I think it is more to do with the muppets who attempt to present the sport. If they make enough noise then it will be brought before the disciplanry panel. If I remember correctly the Perry incident didb't even get mentioned.
Also after watching the trys programme on Sky (the name escapes me atm) I am in agreement with SW, in that, that type of thing has been going on all season and not been penalised. Put tin hat and I didn't think it is as bad as some people make out. I also think that John Kear should be pulled up as he said something along the lines of that it should be a ban. This could have an influence on the judicial commitee.
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| Three match ban, gone for the season unless we appeal and are successful!
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