i'm of the opposite opinion. with and without the ball on saturday i think we looked very jaded even before they pulled away to 18-6 ahead.

of course, we had a lot of tackling to do through our own doing at times and defence tires you out blah blah i know, but i was thinking even after ten minutes or so "jeez we look knackered already"!

the CC Final break will help, but lets not forget there are still teams like Catalans & Saints etc who will also benefit from the break.

we just need some magic in a big game, which i beleive all 3 of our remaining games are in the regular rounds to put some fizz back into the players. if we can pick up a bit of morale going into the playoffs anythign can happen but i must admit i am worried about the mantal and physical pressure that the players are put under and without a key player such as tommy of late the team has struggled.

all we can do, like every teams' fans, is hope for the best and if it ends up in failure it is after all only a game.

--- +1 --,after reading most of the replies to this topic , an also the way in which the wire blew your lot off the pitch on sat,the words,grasping and straws spring to mind

-- like the saints hoodoo ,wire the bottlers ( ) etc etc,your seeing a diff wire this season,cc win and grand final awaits!

Shaun Wane will of cost you getting to the Grand Final if you don't make it.

If we can get a big win against Stains at a full DW and lift the dinner plate, Saturday's game will be forgotten about. The team need to focus solely on that now. It's not the biggest accolade in the game but clinching top would be a good confidence boost before the playoffs.

Keep the faith

----gosh i seem to have touched a nerve there ,anyway,why does that myth about wire bottling it against leeds last year still persist ffs,were you at that game? i doubt it,we actually we had a few players who were not fully fit playing in that game also it took a very,very , VERY dubious descision by a linesman ( i mean,when did you ever see a linesman actually use his flag for an offside,very rare ) in the last few mins for offside which gave leeds the penalty they needed to win the game! if you call that bottling,that is your opinion,i myself call it unlucky,as in very unlucky!also ive said all season wire will get to wembley and the g/f and im standing by that,we will see in sept who is right

Why would it touch a nerve? We have won everything you have won and more and you are in with a very good chance of winning 3 trophies this year and us 2.

The old phrase 'if my ass was my elbow I would through it' comes to mind, Leeds beat you when on paper you should have beaten them and won the GF, but guess what you didn't! That is fact!

It is not about being right or wrong because that is the future, it is about the present and without doubt at the moment you are the best team in the competition, does that mean you will win all 3 trophies? Not at all!!

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-------- the old phrase ,talk about missing the point springs to mind, i was saying wire never BOTTLED it against leeds like you stated,and i tried to explain that and --oh never mind !!!!!!!!!

I didn't miss the point, I know exactly what you were trying to say and that is why I gave you that 'old phrase' because you can make all the excuses in the world, but the bottom line is you were the best team by a country mile last year and didn't win the GF, that is bottling it, irrelevant of how you lost against Leeds, because YOU LOST AND SHOULD HAVE WON EASILY!!

Wire bottlers isn't a fact though is it? like i've said before, Wire have only played one playoff game in which they have gone in as favourite, that was last year v Leeds.

Hardly bottling it seeing as they won the whole thing.

In fact up to now, Wire have done quite well in the big games, it may change on the 25th but so far when its mattered they've usually done well.

120 years or so would suggest something different.

Quite a hard statistic to argue with