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You'd better go and tell Bradford and Harris to get all their money back off Leeds then.'"
You're missing the point here. Both Leeds and Bradford operate under the "rules" of the RFL.
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You'd better go and tell Bradford and Harris to get all their money back off Leeds then.'"
You're missing the point here. Both Leeds and Bradford operate under the "rules" of the RFL.
Replace Bradford with Leicester Tigers and the argument falls apart.'"
If that is the case why did Sarries pay us a transfer fee? |
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[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/16144062.stm[/url
Seems like the resident Union thread so...
Chris Ashton demanding more money, what?! Interesting to see Sarries are interested in him I think their on a mission to fill their team with as many Wigan players as possible.
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You'd better go and tell Bradford and Harris to get all their money back off Leeds then.'"
You're missing the point here. Both Leeds and Bradford operate under the "rules" of the RFL.
Replace Bradford with Leicester Tigers and the argument falls apart.'"
It had nothing to do with the RFL - it was the fact Harris and Bradford broke a contractual arrangement agreed by both Harris and Leeds that caused the problem, hence why it was sorted in a court of law. |
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Quote TrentBarrett="TrentBarrett"[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/16144062.stm[/url
[iSeems like the resident Union thread so...[/i
Chris Ashton demanding more money, what?! Interesting to see Sarries are interested in him I think their on a mission to fill their team with as many Wigan players as possible.'"
Agreed. If there were any mods knocking about they could merge it with this thread, viewtopic.php?f=30&t=437277 |
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Quote TrentBarrett="TrentBarrett"[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/16144062.stm[/url
[iSeems like the resident Union thread so...[/i
Chris Ashton demanding more money, what?! Interesting to see Sarries are interested in him I think their on a mission to fill their team with as many Wigan players as possible.'"
Agreed. If there were any mods knocking about they could merge it with this thread, viewtopic.php?f=30&t=437277 | |
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Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"Quote Catalancs="TrentBarrett"[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/16144062.stm[/url
[iSeems like the resident Union thread so...[/i
Chris Ashton demanding more money, what?! Interesting to see Sarries are interested in him I think their on a mission to fill their team with as many Wigan players as possible.'"
Agreed. If there were any mods knocking about they could merge it with this thread, viewtopic.php?f=30&t=437277'"
You can use Piespace to discuss union as well, and that's where any Ashton or other union posts need to go. This thread is about a current Wigan player so it's fair game to discuss here. |
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[iSeems like the resident Union thread so...[/i
Chris Ashton demanding more money, what?! Interesting to see Sarries are interested in him I think their on a mission to fill their team with as many Wigan players as possible.'"
Agreed. If there were any mods knocking about they could merge it with this thread, viewtopic.php?f=30&t=437277'"
You can use Piespace to discuss union as well, and that's where any Ashton or other union posts need to go. This thread is about a current Wigan player so it's fair game to discuss here. | |
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You'd better go and tell Bradford and Harris to get all their money back off Leeds then.'"
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| Quote EHW="EHW"Quote EHW="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Quote EHW="Suzy Banyon"People that think Sam Tomkins' contract concerning the not talking to RU/NRL clubs is anything more than a gentleman's agreement are deluded.'"
You'd better go and tell Bradford and Harris to get all their money back off Leeds then.'"
Harris had a legal contract with Leeds, not simply a gentleman's agreement.'"
Isn't Tomkins' a legal contract? |
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You'd better go and tell Bradford and Harris to get all their money back off Leeds then.'"
Harris had a legal contract with Leeds, not simply a gentleman's agreement.'"
 Here's another one who actually believes that Sam Tomkins is now on the amazing money he's on as the result of a gentleman's agreement.
What do people not understand about the phrase "extended his contract"? or "three years ringfenced"?
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You'd better go and tell Bradford and Harris to get all their money back off Leeds then.'"
Harris had a legal contract with Leeds, not simply a gentleman's agreement.'"
So Sam's new contract is simply a gentleman's agreement then? You think Lenagan wouldn't have got a clause in his new contract, especially given the club were so keen to emphasise the point when Sam signed?
Harris and Bradford were found guilty of breaking a clause within his contract, even though the High Court Judge who found against them agreed it was potentially restraint of trade - however Harris agreed to it and the rewards he received by agreeing to it, hence why the judge found in favour of Leeds. |
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Quote Cruncher="EHW"Quote Cruncher="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Quote Cruncher="Suzy Banyon"People that think Sam Tomkins' contract concerning the not talking to RU/NRL clubs is anything more than a gentleman's agreement are deluded.'"
You'd better go and tell Bradford and Harris to get all their money back off Leeds then.'"
Harris had a legal contract with Leeds, not simply a gentleman's agreement.'"
Here's another one who actually believes that Sam Tomkins is now on the amazing money he's on as the result of a gentleman's agreement.
What do people not understand about the phrase "extended his contract"? or "three years ringfenced"?
It's not bloody rocket science, chaps.'"
Indeed, self-made multi-millionaires like Lenagan are known for giving money away in return for nothing.
Just to put this one to bed:
Quote CruncherWigan Warriors confirm that England International Full Back Sam Tomkins has reiterated his commitment to Rugby League and the Wigan Club by agreeing a new improved Five Year Contract.
[uThe new deal will cover Seasons 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016 and includes an assurance [/uthat the player will not speak to either Rugby Union nor the NRL during a defined period of the term (Three Years) .
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Can't see why its so difficult to have a clause in his contract prohibiting Tomkins from speaking to RU or the NRL for three years (why not make it four and a half of a five years deal is perhaps a more pertinent question). Its only like all current Super league contracts prohibit players from speaking to other clubs until the September of the final year of their contract.
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