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No I didn't go. I got $hit faced in the club as it was £1 pint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Famous "The thing is a 42,000 crowd at Wembley doesnt necessarily equate to a sell out at Stamford Bridge or 42,000 at the Emirates if you are talking about another London location. A lot of people go to Wembley games because it is Wembley and this adds a lot to the gate. You could easily have played the game at one of these locations, and got no where near the PR and got sub 25,000. Likewise it could have been played up North at say Anfield, or at the JJB like a couple of years ago, and we may have got around 20,000.'"


Agreed. The only other place we should take these games is Old Trafford.

I would take the final there.

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Quote: St pete "No I didn't go. I got $hit faced in the club as it was £1 pint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"

Quite. So your criticism of the turnout has zero credibility.

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Quote: Famous "The thing is a 42,000 crowd at Wembley doesnt necessarily equate to a sell out at Stamford Bridge or 42,000 at the Emirates if you are talking about another London location. A lot of people go to Wembley games because it is Wembley and this adds a lot to the gate. You could easily have played the game at one of these locations, and got no where near the PR and got sub 25,000. Likewise it could have been played up North at say Anfield, or at the JJB like a couple of years ago, and we may have got around 20,000.'"


Exactly. Take the game to "lesser" grounds (even if they have more than enough capacity for 42K) and you will get smaller crowds.

Wembley has been an RL venue for decades and adds to the occasion. A big reason why International RL dropped off IMO was not being able to play at Wembley or not willing to do so.

We had something like 65000 on when Edwards decked Clyde and J Davie splayed a blinder for us to win an epic match years ago so we may never fill it but RU play games there and do not fill it either.

I hope the RFL view it as a success and any time the Aussies are here at least we always have a game there.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Quite. So your criticism of the turnout has zero credibility.'"


Read my posts sweetheart, I didn't give the turn out any criticism. In fact I said it was pretty good to get 40 odd thousand.

What I said was, i think it would have looked and felt better in a 50,000 stadium but also stated it would be hard for RFL to find such a stadium with the football being played the same weekend.

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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



Intially I was critical of taking the game to Wembley. Yet I was at the game yesterday and throughly enjoyed the occasion, and yes it did feel something like the good old days in the 80's and early 90's when fans from all clubs came together to support the national side.
If the game had been played at Wigan it wouldnt have sold out yet we got 42K passionate fans all shouting for the same cause (apart from about 4 Leeds fans at the back of us who booed Tomkins, but that was to expected as they were all sharing the same brain cell).
Not often I say it but WELL DONE TO THE RFL, now lets build on the momentum.

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A different sort of crowd at Wembley yesterday. Apart from 5 blokes from Wakefield nearby who spent the game shouting about the referee's alleged sexual preferences, I found myself surrounded by a Ladies London based Rugby Union Team, quite a few Kiwis, some Aussies and more unusually some young ladies from the USA. Certainly a different atmosphere from what you encounter in Leigh!
A pity more people from the heartland couldn't attend, but as people have pointed out, times are not that easy at the moment and choices have to be made.

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Just got back and tbh I was pleased. Of course I'd rather it be full but we should still look at the postives and build from what happened yesterday. Where i was sat there where americans who seemed intrigued about the "field goals" and didnt understand the concept of having to put the ball down over the line for a try to be scored instead of just walking over icon_lol.gif but from what i could hear they seemed to enjoy it. and also got talking to some southeners next to us who where saying they actually enjoy watching league more as theres so much action. they just dont understand the rules as much.

I think we need to do something similar to this again next time a tournament is in england and stick to wembley, otherwise the whole of yesterday will of been a waste of time. Even if the stadium wasn't full, It definatley got people in the ground who are new to the game and that can only be a good thing.

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Top effort from all concerned if you ask me. I did cringe a tad though when the BBC kept using that wide angle lens camera from the roof of the stand. Made the place look a lot more empty than it actually was

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First time I have been on here since the game on Saturday night and I must say I am pleasantly surprised at how well the RFL did for this double header. I was sceptical to start with about the games being held at Wembley and thought it wouldn't attract a decent enough crowd, but 42000 is a great effort! The amount of new fans around the place too can only be good for the game, hopefully now the RFL can build on this.

I must say I thought the atmosphere was brilliant too, it was just a shame we couldn't get the win or maybe had a scoreline that was a fair reflection of the game.

Not surprised to see the people that are moaning are the people that didn't bother to go because they believe International RL is dying. Well they're wrong.

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I was at Wembley on Saturday and thought it was a huge success. We had a great day, England played really well and the stadium looked great under floodlights. Hope they do the same again next year and really hope more RL fans support the event.

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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



Quote: Coventry Warrior! "First time I have been on here since the game on Saturday night and I must say I am pleasantly surprised at how well the RFL did for this double header. I was sceptical to start with about the games being held at Wembley and thought it wouldn't attract a decent enough crowd, but 42000 is a great effort! The amount of new fans around the place too can only be good for the game, hopefully now the RFL can build on this.

I must say I thought the atmosphere was brilliant too, it was just a shame we couldn't get the win or maybe had a scoreline that was a fair reflection of the game.

Not surprised to see the people that are moaning are the people that didn't bother to go because they believe International RL is dying. [sizeWell they're wrong[/size.'"



a014.gif a014.gif a014.gif a014.gif Too bloody right and anybody that was there Saturday would concur!!

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Great occasion, the Wales/NZ game was drab but it soon came to life when the Aussie/English game was coming up, there was indeed plenty ethnic minorities including Kiwi's Aussies and even some of them funny sounding people from southern England icon_biggrin.gif

Bear in mind that although there was only 42k in a stadium that holds 90k or so the facilities are absolutely rubbish.. 4/5 minute queues at the bogs for a tiddle is incredible not to mention hitler esque stewards asking to see your ticket 4 or 5 times..

All in all it was a great occasion and i even wanted England to beat Australia

Dont remember talking to any Saints fans Brian, tho i do remember some couple saying 5 losses in a row to me or something to that effect then seeing you waving your finger at me curtain.gif

Look forward to the next four nations and hopefully involving Scotland this time

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Quote: Captain13 "Great occasion, the Wales/NZ game was drab but it soon came to life when the Aussie/English game was coming up, there was indeed plenty ethnic minorities including Kiwi's Aussies and even some of them funny sounding people from southern England
Don't forget that even though it was only 42k, the bottom tiers were basically full so the maximum amount of people would have been using the toilets/queuing for food etc. Its always like that at England games when its a sell out and its a nightmare.

Im sure I read somewhere that Wembley has the highest number of toilets than any other ground in the world icon_lol.gif

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