If you mean do I think it's Hypocritical of Sinfield then yes.
I think they used a particular situation and the pressure that was on the club in early August to their advantage and it helped turn their season around (Too late for the CC

but there's always next year).

I didnt get the comments when Macdermott used them at Wembley, maybe I missed something but I didn't see anyone from outside the club saying anything that wasn't being said by its own fans?

I just think Sinfield etc bought into it all and it worked, but there was no need to give it the "you were all wrong" speech and claiming that the fans were brilliant when you can bet half of them were the ones booing and after the coaches and half the teams heads 2 months earlier.
I'm not fooled by it and I'm sure not many are

You think it is hypocritical to say that the achievement is for those who stuck with them, and proves a point to those who didnt? Do you understand what hypocrisy is?

Ok, Hypocritical may have been the wrong word.
Contradictory may not be the right one either.

But I'm not sure how he can lump the 2 comments together?
He tried to make out that it was people outside the club that slagged them off, it xome instances it was and in others it was from within.
The same within that he then went on to Praise ALL of them, not sure how that works?

So for me it was a bit OTT and could have been done better.
Will it/should it take away from what is a wonderful achievement, No way.
But lets not make it out it was some kind of Churchillian speech.

PS

To all Wigan fans


If you disagree and think his speech was wonderful do you think we could sign him and then he could make all our "Announcements!"

I thought the complete opposite, i thought it was a dig at the leeds fans who were criticising McDermott more than it was any other clubs fans whilst paying tribute to those who stuck with them.

That's what I thought too. I thought he spoke very well.

Fair play then, I didn't see it like that but either way nowt to write home about.

They were written off by many because they lost 11 out of 27 games in the regular season and scraped to 5th by virtue of points difference. Many Leeds fans were calling for McD's head and rumours of unrest were rife. That, Kevin, is why many people wrote you off. You were sh*te.

Still - anyone with a brain cell could see the team hadn't changed much and was still capable of good performances when they clicked. Always had the potential to be dangerous and slowly improved as the year went on.

But this is why the current play-off system is a joke. Why should the league leaders have to play 2 games to reach a final they deserve? At most, one game against the lowest qualifying team, with a second chance if they lose. The rest fight it out, with the higher finishers given maximum advantage (ie, 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, etc.). Even better, reduce the play-offs to top 6 or 5.

For me the most undeserving 'champions' ever. After a poor season as a largely mediocre team Leeds faced one genuine contender, Warrington, en route to the final and just scraped a win (tbf, a fantastic game), and suddenly they're at Old Trafford where anything can happen.

Because they dont deserve it. Why has it all of a sudden become the league leaders deserve a place in the GF? We have never had a system which guaranteed a GF place for the league leaders and Im sure we didnt see many arguments from Wigan fans for it in 2005.

Wire and Wigan earned advantages in the play-offs through their performance in the league part of the competition, they couldnt take advantage of them, that is failure of Wire and Wigan not of the system.

Leeds needed to beat 8th, 4th, 1st, and 3rd in a row to win the comp, they did that, im not sure how much harder you want to make it without making the play-offs completely pointless.

Seems to be a bit sidetracked with playoff talk, but I liked what Sinfield said.

They were written off, belittled and widely criticised yet reached both finals and won 1 of them. Well done to them.

I knew you'd be first to reply. Shouldn't you be campaigning "Burrow for England" somewhere?

That is a very easy question to answer. They should have to beat 4 th, 3rd , 2nd and first. That is what the top 5 playoff system requires and that is certainly not a pointless system. It certainly legitimatises 5th winning it more than this system does. Bradford winning it from 3rd was harder because they had to beat both teams above them.

In the top 8 system we have, in week 1 the advantage goes to the team finishing 5th because they play 8th, the weakest team in the competition, whereas 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3. Much harder games. So in our current system in week 1 the 5th placed team gets the biggest advantage which is utterly stupid. They get an easier game in week one than all four sides who finished above them and that is just not right.

If we must have a top 8 system it should be 1 v 8 etc and 5th should be away at 4th in week 1. Not at home to 8 th which is far too big an advantage given the league record that will have got them 5th.

I didn't like the what McDermot said whilst being interviewed on the pitch afterwords. He said that he was glad it was Saints they had played in the GF as opposed to another club, as Saints play the game the way it should be played. A dig at Wigan and the style we play IMO.