I've yet to see the evidence of this.

Likewise, I'm wondering how much input he had into these marvellous marketing initiatives ... which appear to have continued without him.

No-one's saying IL is walking on water. But I query whether or not failure to immediately replace Mick Hogan is a flaw.

Taken in isolation, I think the current absence of a CEO would be an interesting point to discuss, though not worthy of the sort of the shock-horror that you seem to be attributing to it. But with you Dave, it’s part of a familiar pattern of negativity which gradually seems to build up a head of steam under each new administration.

At the risk of being called a ‘happy clapper’, I’m quite content that one thing IL does seem to know about is how to run companies efficiently.

In that light, I don’t see this as a major problem.

A lot, especially at the beginning of his tenure. He did delegate more and more to Simon as time went on, as any good manager should, but the meetings I had early on involved both of them, not just Simon.

i think you are giving a great disservice to simon collinson and geoff warburton if you seriously believe IL is running the club on his own. them two along with lenagan are the reason why they arnt bringing in a new ceo.

This is my understanding of the situation.

To just assume it's an oversight, some kind of penny-pinching measure, or a mistake however you look at it, is far from the truth.

Never mind comparisons with Leeds we should be taking a look at how Widnes cook the books to come up the following;


Not bad from 12 home games, fetching in an average of 2660 a match and a vastly reduced TV deal to ours!

Wires figures for 2009 £5.7 million turnover with profit of £27,800 www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/ldp ... -26944440/ Hull profit of £77,141 in 2009. The 5th year in a row they have made a profit. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html St.Helens, Loss of £862,000 in 2009 Turnover of £4.89 million. This is £1 million down on the 2006 figure. www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/ldp ... -27129723/ Bradford Bulls accounts in 2008 loss of £10,105 turnover of £4.6 million www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/447 ... nts%202008 This should give you some idea were Wigan sit in terms of their size and income generation as a RL club.

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How about fixing that lowlife's avatar then?

Its a cartoon character for starters.

Like you.

But don't pee down our backs and try to tell us its raining.

You gave up your right to have a serious conversation on this message board a long time ago.

glad you get the joke.

Oh and the post wasnt meant to be an attack on Wigan, its not like i can do that when you look at Saints set of results, which are horrific.

Once the Wigan club start ripping off us fans by charging £20-25 like some other clubs in this league then the turnover would increase significantly.

Until then.