The stadium still owns to Dave Whelan at the moment as well.

speaking about fekka and piggy weight loss, and the rest of the team and their fitness. could it be possible that they have been worked too hard in such a short time. could there be a possible burn out on the cards.
Do not want to be negative but it certainly is a possibility. just a thought by the way

Brilliant pictures and a great website.

As for the new kit well....i really want to like it but i just cant take to it. It does look smarter with the logo on it though but those white reflective things take some getting used to - we truly were blessed with the black addidas kit!

The 2003 Black Patrick kit wasn't bad either (shame about the logo)

Riddell was late back because he was on honeymoon wasn't he? Looks as though he was kept busy. All the talk of Feka's weight loss wasn't hype either by the looks of the pictures. Looking forward to seeing all this for real... two weeks and counting!

My son in law plays Union for Leigh and on Saturday they were training at LSV and Wigan were training on the all weather pitch.
He was very complimentary on the physical size and shape that Wigan were in, as he himself is 6 foot 4" and almost 18 stone, so I was interested to hear his observations.
Apparently everything was being done at real pace and with great accuracy.

He said that O'loughlin, Hansen and Joel Tomkins in particular were in tremendous shape and Feka was almost unrecognisable.

Are you a Cas fan in disguise? I hope you dont get a franchise because your ground stinks

Your not wrong there, working on the basis that we need the money more than the bookies and the publicans whats it matter where you spend your social benefits. One theory round our way was that you did not bring a lot of support was because most of your fans were doing their community hours just wondered really.

Great Pictures!

Belle Vue = The best playing surface in the game!

Class

We deferred some salary payments till the following year - you do know what that means don't you? That we actually didn't pay out that money to the player so he was playing for less money that year and more money the next. You do know that at the time that was not against the rules? That it wasn't covered in the rules at all? And the RFL had to decide we were going against the 'spirit of the cap' as we'd not broke any rule, they even updated the rules the following season to cover the situation. You do know that the players were and have been paid the same total amount of money over the course of their contract? And over the course of their contract worked out exactly the same on the salary cap? That it's not fee money or free cap?

We didn't break a single rule when we stayed up.

And that the RFL deemed us to have broken the 'spirit' rather than a 'rule' confirms it, and for that we paid our penalty the following season.

Now 'stut' (sic) your gob until you can learn the actual facts of a situation before jumping in and making yourself look like ar5e gravy, if that's actually possible for you. Or are you yet another ill informed bitter little scrote who likes to mouth off?

Most Wakey fans on here seem to be reasonable well mannered people who actually know what they're talking about. Still there always has to be an exception to prove the rule I guess.

So thats why you got points deduted then

errmm yes, and fined, because we 'broke the spirit'

We did not break any rule, you know the things that are written down and can be quoted.

It would have been interesting to see if the penalty would have stood up in a court of law, I don't think it's clear cut that it would. However we didn't pursue it, it was the final straw for Maurice and DW with the RFL, and we are were we are today, which is actually a good thing in my book.

How hard is this to actually understand.

Steve.

If there is one thing my mother always told me, it is that you can never have an argument with an idiot.

I am sick of having the same argument with numpty fans of other clubs.

The facts are either Black or white to them and they lack the IQ to comprehend the grey areas.

Fair play mate but I dont feel you will get anywhere.