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| Quote jonh="jonh"I think you are confusing condecsending with opinion backed up by why i hold this opinion, nothing more nothing less.
To accused of calling people names and then twice in the same thread to be called a pratt by the same posted making the accusation does make me wonder about you.'"
I called you a pratt because of the names and manner you attack people. If you didn't then I wouldn't. Simple really.
At times Jonh you post some solid posts which make sense, your issue seems to be when people disagree with you. What a meal you made of my opinon of wanting to sign Long on a 2yr deal, that was my opinion. P.S I think we would have beaten Wire if Long with at 7 to Sam at 6 in the semi, another one of my opinions. |
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"In nearly ever post you mention how Mossop will be a prop in the future. I thought you backed up your opinion with facts?'"
It is my opinion he will end up as a Prop, time will tell. If you could back an opinion up with 100% facts, it would cease to be an opinion and become a fact.
I say this as i think he is ultimately his build and style is better suited to Prop, also given he has significant game time at Reserve level as a Prop it would indicate that it is a distinct possibility. |
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"I called you a pratt because of the names and manner you attack people. If you didn't then I wouldn't. Simple really.
At times Jonh you post some solid posts which make sense, your issue seems to be when people disagree with you. What a meal you made of my opinon of wanting to sign Long on a 2yr deal, that was my opinion. P.S I think we would have beaten Wire if Long with at 7 to Sam at 6 in the semi, another one of my opinions.'"
Where have i attacked anyone?
You accuse me of calling people names again where? |
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| Quote jonh="jonh"It is my opinion he will end up as a Prop, time will tell. If you could back an opinion up with 100% facts, it would cease to be an opinion and become a fact.
I say this as i think he is ultimately his build and style is better suited to Prop, also given he has significant game time at Reserve level as a Prop it would indicate that it is a distinct possibility.'"
You clearly wrote how Mossop 'will be a prop' that statement is not a matter of option but a factual comment.
An option doesn't become a fact if backed up by facts Jonh, for example, someone may say Tomkins is a better SR than Bailey then back up their comment with stats facts, then someone will counter that comment with other stat facts to prove Bailey is a better SR, hence a debate.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"You clearly wrote how Mossop 'will be a prop' that statement is not a matter of option but a factual comment.
An option doesn't become a fact if backed up by facts Jonh, for example, someone may say Tomkins is a better SR than Bailey then back up their comment with stats facts, then someone will counter that comment with other stat facts to prove Bailey is a better SR, hence a debate.
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Hence you do not have 100% facts and that is why it remains an opinion.
I do think Mossop will be a prop, i am unsure where the confusion lies. |
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| Quote jonh="jonh"You are entitled to your opinion which is fine, i am honestly board of your cameo appearances on here slating everyone else's opinion and then vanishing for another few months.
What position would you play him next year? Locky has been the form loose this year in the comp and is going nowhere.
Given our current deficiencies up front we need some size and go forward in our backrow, both Mossop and Farrell give us this certainly over what Flannigan can. Nobody is faulting Flanigan's contribution thus far but is he has played only a few games his workrate is fantastic but given his size and stage of development can we expect this from him week in week out throughout a regular season, in my opinion no.
Having spoken about reserve players with reserve players Farrell is always mentioned as an opponent that they do not like to play against and is held in very high regard by his fellow reserve standard players Flanigan i dont think ever in these talks get a mention.
I do not for one second think he is a bad player, but our pack clearly lacks go forward, for the balance of the team i feel the above players mentioned offer the team more at this moment in time than Flanigan does. if we had a pack able to dominate teams i am sure he would be worth a spot much like the Wilkin role at Saints, i see him very much as that kind of player. The fact is we have very little go forward and a front row that fails to dominate there opponents apart from a 3 or 4 week spell every year.
Flanigan will be able to enhance his handling skills and his conditioning in an environment much more suited to improving this. In a couple of year he should return a better player and hopefully once we have the likes of Fielden off our hands and Prescott with another few years development a team of props capable of consistently competing and winning the battle upfront.
Until we are in a position to field a team of Props capable of this the last thing we need is a lightweight backrow.
Who mentioned anything about brining in bog standard Aussies by the way? I am starting to think you have an obsession with them, all the promotion for the backrow should and does look to be coming from within the club.'" |
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Hence you do not have 100% facts and that is why it remains an opinion.
I do think Mossop will be a prop, i am unsure where the confusion lies.'"
Where are your facts that Mossop will be a prop? its a call without anything to back it up! |
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Where are your facts that Mossop will be a prop? its a call without anything to back it up!'"
The fact that he has spent significant game time in the reserves playing Prop, and also in my opinion he has the game more suited to Prop yet needs time to bed in, in the secondrow, I have mentioned it several times in this thread alone.
This is not a fact it is opinion, held by me. |
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It looks to me like Jack Kerley has had his usual effect. Cause other people to get into arguments, while he slinks off.
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He could start an argument at a peace rally.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"It looks to me like Jack Kerley has had his usual effect. Cause other people to get into arguments, while he slinks off.'"
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