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| Quote WigansForeignLegion="WigansForeignLegion"Surely the slate's wiped clean at the end of every season and we don't look at previous achievements/failures? After all Jon, you've been a loyal supporter of noble in the past 2 years, what you're saying is pathetic after 2 games
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If that were the case the Noble supporters who crash out the old line time and time again, he saved us from relegation, look at what he did with Bradford etc etc would not have a leg to stand on.
A supporter of Noble? 
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| Quote jonh="jonh"If that were the case the Noble supporters who crash out the old line time and time again, he saved us from relegation, look at what he did with Bradford etc etc would not have a leg to stand on.
A supporter of Noble?
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Hence the wink.
I'm slowly coming round to your OP, short-term loss, long term gain etc.
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| Theres not much love on this thread.
To be honest I can see where Jonh is coming from. Ive had enough of Noble's one dimensional ineffective tactics. If we do lose to Cas surely hes gone which means the club can move forward with new ideas?
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| Quote - Neil -="- Neil -"Theres not much love on this thread.
To be honest I can see where Jonh is coming from. Ive had enough of Noble's one dimensional ineffective tactics. If we do lose to Cas surely hes gone which means the club can move forward with new ideas?'"
Liek I said: short-term loss, long term gain
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Here is me thinking he had been coach for 2 and a half years?'"
and in that time...
saved us from relegation
one game away from the grand final twice
challenge cup semi final
and you still want him sacked?
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| Quote Newton-Le-willows-Warrior="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"and in that time...
saved us from relegation
one game away from the grand final twice
challenge cup semi final
and you still want him sacked?'"

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| Quote Newton-Le-willows-Warrior="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"and in that time...
saved us from relegation
one game away from the grand final twice
challenge cup semi final
and you still want him sacked?'"
Regardless of the wider issues regarding Noble, I simply don't (and hope I never do) view losing in semi-finals as any level of achievement.
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| Quote WigansForeignLegion="WigansForeignLegion":3gw11a1wI can see why you're saying it but can't bring myself to wish Wigan lose. I too think Noble's time is fast running out and think we'd be better off without him. I'd like to see a Lam / :3gw11a1wWane:3gw11a1w partnership (can't see Edwards just yet), perhaps with Faz coming back in a coaching role too.'"
If they do win, and on current showing they have every opportunity to, then perhaps that's a sign that they've progressed at a greater rate than we have?
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I look forward to it.
I look forward to anyone trying to justify the loss of the first 2 games of the season and the garbage performances especially given the playing staf we have on the books.'"
My main reason for not wanting Noble sacked yet is purely because I feel he has earned more time.
He took over a club in turmoil and has now stabilised the club. The question is whether or not he can take us to the next level. It's only two games into the season with a new half back combination to boot so I think it's far too early to talk of sacking the coach.
If mid season we are still showing no signs of improvement then I think it would be time to question Noble's future. Last nights performance despite losing was an improvement on last week (although it couldn't get much worse). I actually want us to batter Cas next week and the players then go on a winning run playing with confidence.
I could never want my team to lose even when Millward was coach. You say you want what is best for the club but the way it comes across when reading your posts is that you're more interested in boosting your ego. That may not be your intention.
Yes there have been some bad performances over the last 2 years, Huddersfield at home etc but there have been some good ones, Leeds away etc so I don't think it's been all doom and gloom under Noble. The good performances have shown us the coach and players are capable, the challenge is doing it on a consistent basis. I would say see where we are come July and then re-assess. Far too early in the season to judge IMO.
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| We did play better as a team yeasterday but even kids ages 8 or 9 are taught to catch a bomb when its put up it wasnt a schoolball error its a profesional player on a good wage that kids look up 2 im not critising roberts just that if you play wing/full back its your job to catch high kicks.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I personally hope Cas stuff us, so that we can see an and to the reign of Brian Noble, and have some hope for this season and beyond.
Bring back the Pearl.'" What a complete and utter john thomas you really are!!!...Why dont you put in for nobles job???, you claim to know everything there is about noble and the club??, so send your cv in and show us all your not just a nerd with at best an amature rl background who uses fancy words and summarises everything anyone says, and hates the mere ground noble walks on cause he wouldnt autograph your matchday programme many moons ago!! 
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| Quote W18ANR="W18ANR"What a complete and utter john thomas you really are!!!...Why dont you put in for nobles job???, you claim to know everything there is about noble and the club??, so send your cv in and show us all your not just a nerd with at best an amature rl background who uses fancy words and summarises everything anyone says, and hates the mere ground noble walks on cause he wouldnt autograph your matchday programme many moons ago!!
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Spot on! Come on Jonh, you claim to know everything about coaching so why are you not coaching? Lets face it,Noble has forgot more than you will ever know. You certainly talk a good game,lets see you in action.
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