And I thought that they had closed Winwick Hospital, how silly of me! If Marshall was acting then how did he fail an HIA? Obviously, there is some sort of conspiracy going on.

He needs to go, was sick of seeing his annoyed/baffled face on sky whenever things werent going well, like this isn’t down to his own terrible decisions and bad coaching.

The scoreline. It shows just how bad Wigan played that they couldn't even go into the break ahead...

Think you might want to brush up on the rules yourself there bud. Accidental things aren't penalties, they're accidents. I do think it should have gone to the video ref to check whether it was intentional/reckless though.

That's where the ref went wrong.

An awful lot of people on here are assuming it was an accident (presumably because the offender was Charnley, who usually doesn't know what's going on in front of his nose let alone has time to kick it).

That's a big assumption when something is happening at game-speed.

But it's often been the case that accidental collision with the head has resulted in penalties. Rightly or wrongly, we've all seen it and been infuriated by it dozens of times.

It was typical of Hicks, the most snivelling excuse for a referee we've got (out of a whole selection of them) to choose this occasion to do nothing at all.

I’d love to get worked up about the decision but it’s not the reason we lose the game and it’s an easy excuse for Lam to hide behind. He should be appalled at the attack we’re serving up and that’s on him. We have far bigger worries with Lam in charge than a player being accidentally caught on the head. The attack is that bad it felt like game over at 14-8 anyway, as I didn’t see where anymore points were coming from.

That was the actual reason I started this thread.

I agreed with him about Hicks' pathetic error, but for him to then say that Wigan were the better team was not just churlish, it made him look ridiculous.

If he genuinely can't see where Wigan are going wrong at present, then he can't be a coach. It's that simple.

The more pertinent question for me is, how did we not beat a team with 44% completion in the first half and less than 60% across the whole game!

Warrington are a very poor side despite their spending, and can only occasionally turn it on and have a good day. Theyre another Castleford, which is why they'll never get near champions this year.

But the worrying thing for me was, Wire were so poor yet we were never really in the game. Dominated field position and possession yet lackluster and completely devoid of ideas near the line. We never looked like making a break and kicks were our best chance of scoring.

For Lam to come out and say that was 'outstanding' is baffling!

He's undermining his own credibility with his post match comments...I think possibly out of mistaken loyalty to the players and wanting to keep their heads up, but you can't give them false praise like that when the performance was dire! I'm no big fan of wanes, but he would have at least told it how it was last night, and ripped into them where he needed to.

You get the sense Lam goes into the dressing room and tells them how good they are, and they were just unlucky and unfairly treated on decisions. Yes, we got some baffling decisions against us last night (the mamo try and the bibby one at the end which should have been awarded), yet even with those decisions, we were still chasing the game and wire always looked the more likely. Regardless of how poor wire were!

Towards the end the players had lost the plot....the victim/ world is against us mentality had consumed them, and all their energy was going into feeling aggrieved (whether with reason or not). Thats a dangerous mindset and you're never going to win like that.

We need to sensibly assess last nights performance as nowhere near good enough against a poor side, rather than bury our head in the sand and find reasons why we were badly done to.

If Wane doesnt get the gig, would you have Maguire back? He seems to be on borrowed time at the Tigers as he has lost the dressing room and I cant see any other NRL team take a punt on him

I suggest every single person saying he was knocked out looks at the try again, he has a cheeky look at Mamo racing away then faces back down. Play acting at its finest. It’s ok to admit one of your players has tried to con the ref,

That was exactly what i said at the game.....at least lam has his excuse now! It was inevitable it was latched onto, yet, ridiculous try decision or not, we'd have still lost to an awful wire side. That was probably the worst ive seen wire play in a couple of years, yet they still outplayed us.

I'm generally a lam fan and think he's in an impossible position atm with the way the club have underfunded the team yet expected results. But he has to be realistic and has to expect better than that. To call that 'outstanding' and then blame marginal decisions which didn't affect the result, makes him look delusional!

I can’t even give him the excuse if us being under funded. Yes I’d like to have brought a good replacement in this season for George Burgess but he has a squad that is costing up towards the cap limit and the team has fallen that low we’re averaging ten points a game over the last 9 matches. That’s pretty much disgraceful and it’s unacceptable. I sat earlier and thought about who the worst team I’ve seen in Superleague history were and came up with Workington Town in 1996. They averaged just shy of 15 points per game in that season, roughly the same as we average this season overall and nearly 5 points a game more than we average in these last 9 games. Now clearly we’re much better overall and the games changed but it’s a real eye opener about just how appalling our attack is.

The guy just can’t get performances out of anybody on a regular basis. He’s got two props in Bullock and Clark who can at least dent the line and just refuses to pick them. We’ve seen loads of players go backwards and very very few, if any improve. He’s doing more harm than good with the young players by flogging them and the end of this season can’t come quick enough. I feel for the players really. The effort is great but they look as lost as I am on what the game plan is.