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Quote: moto748 "Mago played for Souths at the weekend and had decent minutes, looked solid.

As for KPP at centre, he may be quick 'for a forward', but is quick for an outside back? And, as noted, the defensive aspect of the position in particular is not easy.'"


I was one who called for trying him at centre when we were struggling in the backs using Farrell and Isa, he was unfortunately injured, after seeing him play he has good hands but no sign of the pace needed for centre. We have had success over the years with Gilmour, Wild, Tompkins even Hughes covering centre but they all had pace. I would like to see KPP in open space to see if he has the acceleration needed to play in the backs.

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I’d hope we’d have enough options in the backs next year to avoid needing to go down the route of second rowers covering centre. French is staying, so Hardaker and Bibby are already centre options and Thornley is likely to be added. They may even bring back Hankinson according to reports, so we could have good depth. I’d be looking to get KPP to put some size on in the off season and concentrate on playing in the back row. I’m not saying he should be bulking up too much but an extra stone on him and he’ll be an even bigger handful than he is proving already.

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Very happy with these signings.

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Quote: jonh "I remember seeing him and was impressed with his ability to play the link man. Good passing game for a “middle”. He’s not a prop or a 13 but the modern type of middle forward.

He’s much more suited to that role than with Harvard or Partington. Harvard is a Prop and Partington for me is a Prop trying to be a “middle” forward.

Ellis is by no means a super star but he will add size and that bit of mongrel the team lacks up top. He gets in the opposition faces and likes to disrupt

He was most recently linked with a move to Cas so when we announced him I was a little surprised but pleased.

He will go well in SL in my opinion.'"


Main concern from that summary is that we really needed two out and out front rowers. Sounds like he'll do well for us but I probably would have preferred for the 2nd signing to be of a similar ilk to Mago.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I’d hope we’d have enough options in the backs next year to avoid needing to go down the route of second rowers covering centre. French is staying, so Hardaker and Bibby are already centre options and Thornley is likely to be added. They may even bring back Hankinson according to reports, so we could have good depth. I’d be looking to get KPP to put some size on in the off season and concentrate on playing in the back row. I’m not saying he should be bulking up too much but an extra stone on him and he’ll be an even bigger handful than he is proving already.'"


That all sounds good. For next season anyway. But it's all a blank slate really, isn't it?

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Not exactly well known top class NRL players but with the current poor financial state of the club, I supposed they are the best we can afford from down under at the present time.

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "Not exactly well known top class NRL players but with the current poor financial state of the club, I supposed they are the best we can afford from down under at the present time.'"



.... and will no doubt still be 200% better than 'ten minute Tony'.

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Quote: MattyB ".... and will no doubt still be 200% better than 'ten minute Tony'.'"


We need to break down the 10 minute spells into the minutes he actually does something, 10 minute Tony could soon be 2 minute Tony.

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Quote: ChrisA "We need to break down the 10 minute spells into the minutes he actually does something, 10 minute Tony could soon be 2 minute Tony.'"


In some contexts 2 minutes is pretty good

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Quote: stpatricks "Kade Evans was reported as possible move to SL with Cas interested, im not sure if Ellis was on their radar'"


Evans was rumoured to be joining Cas or Hull last off season.

Ellis had been linked with a move to Cas a month or so ago, I’d heard it was a done deal. Obviously not.

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Quote: MattyB ".... and will no doubt still be 200% better than 'ten minute Tony'.'"



But, will they still be playing for the club after seven seasons, having had a major operation and after a eight match suspension having to help bolster a present front row which includes two poor "experienced" signings in Bullock and Singleton and young and inexperienced lightweight props like Havard and Partington.

Or will they like others in more recent seasons, be no different to than the likes of Navarette, Nuuausala, Pettybourne, Tautai,

The signing of prop forwards from outside the club in recent seasons has been poor, especially missing Alex Walmsley playing for Batley!

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "But, will they still be playing for the club after seven seasons, having had a major operation and after a eight match suspension having to help bolster a present front row which includes two poor "experienced" signings in Bullock and Singleton and young and inexperienced lightweight props like Havard and Partington.

Or will they like others in more recent seasons, be no different to than the likes of Navarette, Nuuausala, Pettybourne, Tautai,

The signing of prop forwards from outside the club in recent seasons has been poor, especially missing Alex Walmsley playing for Batley!'"


Not sure we missed Alex Walmsley as we certainly had a close look at him when he was at Batley.

My understanding was that we decided not to make a move for him because of concerns regarding his mobility in particular his lateral movement.

Big mistake on our part obviously.

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "But, will they still be playing for the club after seven seasons, having had a major operation and after a eight match suspension having to help bolster a present front row which includes two poor "experienced" signings in Bullock and Singleton and young and inexperienced lightweight props like Havard and Partington.

Or will they like others in more recent seasons, be no different to than the likes of Navarette, Nuuausala, Pettybourne, Tautai,

The signing of prop forwards from outside the club in recent seasons has been poor, especially missing Alex Walmsley playing for Batley!'"


I don’t know what you want. Us to go out and sign the Australian starting props? I could be wrong but has any other SL club in recent memory done that? Mago and Ellis are exactly the type of props we need.

Lightweight he may be but he, by some distance, is our best prop. Kinda makes your underhanded downplay of him mute, no?

You can ask “will they be this or that” all you - and we - want; ultimately we’ll not know until they’re here. Why don’t you just for once give them a chance?

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I’ve not seen any of the South’s game this morning (f@ck the NRL) but Mago’s stats look exactly what we need. He made 12 carries for 169 metres according to the league live app. I believe they calculate it differently to over here but it’s encouraging either way.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I’ve not seen any of the South’s game this morning (f@ck the NRL) but Mago’s stats look exactly what we need. He made 12 carries for 169 metres according to the league live app. I believe they calculate it differently to over here but it’s encouraging either way.'"


75 post contact meters which put him 3rd for post contact meters despite coming off the bench.

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