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| Quote jonh="jonh"Hull were distinctly average again.'"
Hull played as well as they needed to. They, like most teams now, had us sussed from minute 1and didn't need to do anything special to beat a totally boring and inept team.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Hull were distinctly average again.'" but average enough to beat you 2 out of 3,including a semi final. 
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| First of all the better team won, fully deserved Hull win. I was fuming last night with our attack and I still don't feel anything different this morning. The attack broke down time and time again with Matty Smith. I have always stuck up for Smith and appreciated his role in the team but last night the last straw. To miss that kick to go 2 points behind was criminal, that would have meant Hull would have had to defend and not give a penalty away, which automatically speeds up the ruck. Then a few minutes later we have huge numbers on our right and one of his passes goes to ground and the attack breaks down. Hugely frustrating, he seems a nice bloke but nice blokes don't win you games.
I, too like many other fans, want to see attacking rugby. This season I can't really remember more than a few games where we have played what we see. I'm getting bored going to games and feel I have only been entertained this year due to the closeness of some games. The attack is so easy to defend but yet we're only 4 points from being at Wembley and 2 points off the top of the league. This team are performing well below their potential. If we don't win anything this year, I do feel Wane has to go but sadly can't see Radlinski or Lenegan making such a decision.
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| I'm going to buck the trend here.
That was a GOOD semi-final, tight, competitive and fierce. Both sides defended really well (2 tries each). Wigan lost the game on two pieces of poor play. The pass for the Tierney try, no need for it to be passed forward, it was a walk in. Then the Dom Manfredi dropped ball. If you wanted any winger in that position it would be him but he spilled it. In all the time watching him from academy level up I can't recall him ever dropping a simple catch like that before. We don't make those two errors and we win the game, simple as that.
I enjoyed the game, it was a real contest that could have gone either way. I'll watch it again over the weekend, maybe I'll change my mind.
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| Quote Edinburgh Warrior="Edinburgh Warrior"6 hours on a motorway (probably another 6 today ) for that . I'm sorry but a few need to look in the mirror today and have a good think and I'm not talking about the youngsters either.
Regards , EW'"
Likewise.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I'm going to buck the trend here.
That was a GOOD semi-final, tight, competitive and fierce. Both sides defended really well (2 tries each). Wigan lost the game on two pieces of poor play. The pass for the Tierney try, no need for it to be passed forward, it was a walk in. Then the Dom Manfredi dropped ball. If you wanted any winger in that position it would be him but he spilled it. In all the time watching him from academy level up I can't recall him ever dropping a simple catch like that before. We don't make those two errors and we win the game, simple as that.
I enjoyed the game, it was a real contest that could have gone either way. I'll watch it again over the weekend, maybe I'll change my mind.'"
If this game was a one off, a tight tense semi final were teams were too scared of losing to try and win I might agree. Fact is though it's a continuation of the last 12 months, boring, unimaginative, predictable and monotonous.
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| I think had Gareth Ellis scored that try in the first half the score would have been a bigger margin. At best we managed to contain Hull, not the other way round.
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| Quote ChrisA="ChrisA"If this game was a one off, a tight tense semi final were teams were too scared of losing to try and win I might agree. Fact is though it's a continuation of the last 12 months, boring, unimaginative, predictable and monotonous.'"
Do you think Hull were much more adventurous than Wigan? As I said if those two poor bits of play didn't happen Wigan win the game. Wane will also be very disappointed with the defensive effort for the Hull 1st try. Up to that we'd wrapped the ball up really well in the tackle but for that try we fell off a couple .
Good play or poor defense? I suppose it depends on how you see the game.
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| [* Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I'm going to buck the trend here.
That was a GOOD semi-final, tight, competitive and fierce. Both sides defended really well (2 tries each). Wigan lost the game on two pieces of poor play. The pass for the Tierney try, no need for it to be passed forward, it was a walk in. Then the Dom Manfredi dropped ball. If you wanted any winger in that position it would be him but he spilled it. In all the time watching him from academy level up I can't recall him ever dropping a simple catch like that before. We don't make those two errors and we win the game, simple as that.
I enjoyed the game, it was a real contest that could have gone either way. I'll watch it again over the weekend, maybe I'll change my mind.'"
Sometimes the game looks different when you watch it back on TV; I've got it recorded at home if I can bear to sit through it. But watching live, I didn't think it was a good contest; I thought Hull, whilst not fantastic, were vastly the better side. Far from 'smashing' opponents, I thought Wigan were dominated physically, Hull are a big size, Talanoa in particular caused us problems. But that was the least of it. Houghton and Sneyd directed their attack effectively and we had no-one doing the same. As so often, we rely on getting a bit of individual skill from George Williams to bring us points. That's not how you win rugby matches against decent opponents. Williams was one of our better performers on a desperately poor night, and we all know he is a talented lad, but he deserves someone better alongside him.
So Gildart carries the can for the disallowed try? I'd have too see that back, but I'd be a bit sorry for him if that is the case, like GW he is a skillful young player, and if our 'attacks' die out with him being left with nowhere to go, that is hardly his fault. He's certainly more of a centre than Sarginson will ever be.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I'm going to buck the trend here.
That was a GOOD semi-final, tight, competitive and fierce. Both sides defended really well (2 tries each). Wigan lost the game on two pieces of poor play. The pass for the Tierney try, no need for it to be passed forward, it was a walk in. Then the Dom Manfredi dropped ball. If you wanted any winger in that position it would be him but he spilled it. In all the time watching him from academy level up I can't recall him ever dropping a simple catch like that before. We don't make those two errors and we win the game, simple as that.
I enjoyed the game, it was a real contest that could have gone either way. I'll watch it again over the weekend, maybe I'll change my mind.'"
Defensively we were ok but every time we were near the Hull line we had totally no idea how to score - second half there were far too many players stood around leaving it to others to try and score. Smith was woeful , Sarginson his usual disinterested ball dropping non-passing self, Manfredi is a total waste in this team, the rest just clueless. Lockers looks completely not fit, only Williams looked like he could do anything and he is trying too much on his own due to the shocking level of mediocrity around him. That was the third totally inept attacking performance in a row from this team (one of many this season)
Something needs to change if Wigan are to do anything in the play-offs - otherwise the season will just peter out in a sea of dross.
I would start with dropping Sarginson (either Bateman or Higginson in), Smith (Shorrocks in) ,if we had someone I would also be tempted to drop Lockers as well.As for the rest s some serious backside kicking is in order.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Do you think Hull were much more adventurous than Wigan? As I said if those two poor bits of play didn't happen Wigan win the game. Wane will also be very disappointed with the defensive effort for the Hull 1st try. Up to that we'd wrapped the ball up really well in the tackle but for that try we fell off a couple .
Good play or poor defense? I suppose it depends on how you see the game.'"
We tackle well, we put the effort in, there's just no craft or imagination there at all. I don't really care how Hull played, I look at how we played and have we got that group of players we have playing to their potential. My opinion, even with the injuries, is that we haven't even come close. Yes we've got them defending, yes the effort is there, but we can't trouble defences.
I think that Hull, had they needed to could have been more expansive and taken more risks. I dont think we know how, when we try we make mistakes.
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| Home . Bad result but a good night out tho'
Regards , EW
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